MazzyStar Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 Trying to blame the protesters for your sport being a pointless waste of the lives of animals after they were proven right. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tongue_tied_danny Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 Supporting a club that plays music over the tannoy after a goal 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19QOS19 Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 6 hours ago, Highland Capital said: Drive a 4X4 despite not living on a farm or having a massive family. Worse is 4x4 drivers who go over speedbumps as if the car is made of glass. 5 hours ago, MazzyStar said: Trying to blame the protesters for your sport being a pointless waste of the lives of animals after they were proven right. Their actions clearly affected the horses tbh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MazzyStar Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 5 minutes ago, 19QOS19 said: Their actions clearly affected the horses tbh. Proof? Anyway just googled it and apparently the group is affiliated with extinction rebellion so I’ve changed my mind and decided that it’s all their fault. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19QOS19 Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 8 minutes ago, MazzyStar said: Proof? Anyway just googled it and apparently the group is affiliated with extinction rebellion so I’ve changed my mind and decided that it’s all their fault. Well you don't need to be an expert to know that keeping the horses out in the heat longer than they had to be will have had some sort of effect on them. It was also reported (Independent I think I read it earlier) that they got off to a faster start than usual. I won't pretend to be an expert on horses but I'd imagine them travelling at a faster pace early on never helped matters either. I think a peaceful protest would have been just as effective as what they've achieved with their actions yesterday tbh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 7 minutes ago, 19QOS19 said: I think a peaceful protest would have been just as effective as what they've achieved with their actions yesterday tbh. How was it not a peaceful protest? Were they failed suicide bombers? 6 hours ago, MazzyStar said: Trying to blame the protesters for your sport being a pointless waste of the lives of animals after they were proven right. If it weren't for the sport then those animals wouldn't have a life in the first place. They're not going to be released and thrive in the wild. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19QOS19 Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 Just now, virginton said: How was it not a peaceful protest? Were they failed suicide bombers? It depends on the definition I suppose. But folk having to get hauled away from the track/folk punching them off fences/Police having to get physical with them isn't my idea of a peaceful protest. Standing with signs at the entrance of the race course would be my idea of peaceful. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 1 minute ago, virginton said: How was it not a peaceful protest? Were they failed suicide bombers? If it weren't for the sport then those animals wouldn't have a life in the first place. They're not going to be released and thrive in the wild. Retired thoroughbreds are still an issue for rehoming. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loonytoons Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 53 minutes ago, 19QOS19 said: Worse is 4x4 drivers who go over speedbumps as if the car is made of glass. Their actions clearly affected the horses tbh. Not as much as the jumps tbh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19QOS19 Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Loonytoons said: Not as much as the jumps tbh. Yeah probably not. You'd think Animal Rights Protestors would want to do their best not to distress animals though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highland Capital Posted April 16, 2023 Author Share Posted April 16, 2023 People who see a movement against some kind of social injustice and think "what about me!?" I call this the Angela Haggerty effect. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 53 minutes ago, 19QOS19 said: It depends on the definition I suppose. But folk having to get hauled away from the track/folk punching them off fences/Police having to get physical with them isn't my idea of a peaceful protest. Standing with signs at the entrance of the race course would be my idea of peaceful. A peaceful protest is not rendered violent by the response of the authorities. The police 'had' to do no such thing. It's no wonder that the Civil Rights movement in the USA and just about every other non-violent protest movement where unpopular in their own time, as these responses are ten a penny (and always, always wrong). 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19QOS19 Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 1 minute ago, virginton said: A peaceful protest is not rendered violent by the response of the authorities. The police 'had' to do no such thing. It's no wonder that the Civil Rights movement in the USA and just about every other non-violent protest movement where unpopular in their own time, as these responses are ten a penny (and always, always wrong). I never said it was violent. I'm not sure why you've got 'had' like that. Are you saying the Police didn't get physical with them or that they could have left them? I'm not sure the Police would have had any reason to arrest people if they were standing at the entrance chanting/holding boards. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, 19QOS19 said: I never said it was violent. You said that a 'peaceful' protest would have been more effective. Which is contrasting it with a non-peaceful or 'violent' protest. It's either one or the other. Quote I'm not sure why you've got 'had' like that. Are you saying the Police didn't get physical with them or that they could have left them? The police did not have to arrest them on the grounds that they posed a direct threat of violence/harm to the public, or even the police. That would be a non-peaceful protest The police got physical with them using the battery of other laws that exist to remove any level of nuisance level disorder, disruption or trespassing - which are used all the time against peaceful protests in this country. Quote I'm not sure the Police would have had any reason to arrest people if they were standing at the entrance chanting/holding boards. The protestors are not obliged to fulfil your pointless Father Ted tactics to still count as peaceful and legitimate* though. * Despite their actual point of protest being a bit dim Edited April 16, 2023 by vikingTON 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 A thoroughbred racehorse should go and jump on the protesters fences, see how they like it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eez-eh Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 8 hours ago, Highland Capital said: Drive a 4X4 despite not living on a farm or having a massive family. Bonus points when it’s a Range Rover. Extra bonus points when it’s a white Range Rover. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 Horses were always better encased in breaded envelopes and sold frozen in supermarket freezer aisles. Preferably Findus. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19QOS19 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 11 hours ago, virginton said: You said that a 'peaceful' protest would have been more effective. Which is contrasting it with a non-peaceful or 'violent' protest. It's either one or the other. The police did not have to arrest them on the grounds that they posed a direct threat of violence/harm to the public, or even the police. That would be a non-peaceful protest The police got physical with them using the battery of other laws that exist to remove any level of nuisance level disorder, disruption or trespassing - which are used all the time against peaceful protests in this country. The protestors are not obliged to fulfil your pointless Father Ted tactics to still count as peaceful and legitimate* though. * Despite their actual point of protest being a bit dim The point is the same but the wording is perhaps wrong. Had they stood out front like Father Ted it would have had exactly the same effect as the actions they chose to take (ie. Pointless). I'd argue that their actions ironically caused the horses more distress than anything else so it was a pretty stupid protest on their part. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 24 minutes ago, 19QOS19 said: The point is the same but the wording is perhaps wrong. Had they stood out front like Father Ted it would have had exactly the same effect as the actions they chose to take (ie. Pointless). I'd argue that their actions ironically caused the horses more distress than anything else so it was a pretty stupid protest on their part. They’d have been ignored standing out the front. They wanted publicity, and got it. Whether or not you agree with their cause or their tactics, it was a minor success for them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.