Coronavirus (COVID-19)

[Wee Willie]

2 hours ago, Melanius Mullarkey said:

The folk that take part in these polls are obviously Mintermind types whose only comeback on any criticism of the Torycuntfraudsquad is “ha ha wee nippy got independence yet” whilst countless poverty stricken and old people are left to die.

ie thick, selfish c***s

You could be describing the Windsor family.

1 hour ago, Bob Mahelp said:

The UK is well on track to have the world's second highest number of deaths.  That's a pretty astonishing statistic under any set of circumstances.

It's the job of the opposition parties and the (pause for laughter) media, to examine forensically why this has happened. 

At the moment the Tories have free reign to bang on about how brilliantly they're doing, the Dunkirk spirit, spitfires, Vera Lynn etc etc, and they're dominating the political narrative to such an extent that anyone questioning them is made to somehow look unpatriotic. 

I'm sure Labour recognise the danger in this. If they don't attack the Tories, before you know it we'll be on the other side of this and Johnson will have very quickly re-written history to the extent that he will be utterly untouchable for years to come. 

People say we shouldn't be arguing politics at this point in time, but ALL of this.....every announcement, every decision....has a political motivation. And the Tories know it, and know that Labour are peddling backwards.

The one bright light is that Corbyn is gone and Labour seem to have an intelligent and reasonably effective leader. 

I take it you're no independence-minded

Labour are still one cheek o' the same arse as far as Scotland is concerned.

They and the Tories are still supporting Trident in Scottish waters.

Still supporting Scotland paying her share of expensive English projects.

There's a yougov poll that I'm seeing on FB and it shows Labour on 15% in Scotland, Tories on 25% and SNP on 51%.

That doesn't show Labour in a particularly good light in Scotland.

[dundeefc1783]

Was in the kingsway one, first time I have been there for a good few weeks usually use the Riverside one. Was in Riverside a few weeks back and like you say it was much better so will only be going there from now on. Must be a better class of customer at Riverside.

Which Tesco was this? I was in the one on Riverside Dundee today and pretty much everyone was tuned in to social distancing and giving their fellow shoppers adequate space.

[Jacksgranda]

2 hours ago, throbber said:

The first case was confirmed on Skye at a nursing home yesterday, people there were told to expect a wave by the end of May so easing lockdown there would be a stupid idea but not in the least bit surprising coming from the Tories. 
 

At least we are in a fairly strong position in that we can monitor how well other countries respond to easing restrictions in the coming weeks.

We were also in a fairly strong position to observe how lockdown was working before we eventually got round to introducing it.

[effeffsee_the2nd]

The UK is well on track to have the world's second highest number of deaths.  That's a pretty astonishing statistic under any set of circumstances.
It's the job of the opposition parties and the (pause for laughter) media, to examine forensically why this has happened. 
At the moment the Tories have free reign to bang on about how brilliantly they're doing, the Dunkirk spirit, spitfires, Vera Lynn etc etc, and they're dominating the political narrative to such an extent that anyone questioning them is made to somehow look unpatriotic. 
I'm sure Labour recognise the danger in this. If they don't attack the Tories, before you know it we'll be on the other side of this and Johnson will have very quickly re-written history to the extent that he will be utterly untouchable for years to come. 
People say we shouldn't be arguing politics at this point in time, but ALL of this.....every announcement, every decision....has a political motivation. And the Tories know it, and know that Labour are peddling backwards.
The one bright light is that Corbyn is gone and Labour seem to have an intelligent and reasonably effective leader. 

All politics aside I highly doubt we are the 2nd worst in the world , although our official figures are abit dubious to say the least places like china and the likes are most likely just a pack of lies. Thats not to say were not making a total arse of it. If it wasn’t for trump and the Brazilian with their outright belligerent attitude then our handling of it would probably be the worst in the world .

[jagfox]

A cavalier Tory leader and a botched pandemic response? It must be 1957

Opinion piece from the Guardian. It'll probably be a case of history repeating. 

Government not taken to task by Labour and will re-write history to ensure another term in 4 years time.

[Turkmenbashi]

3 minutes ago, effeffsee_the2nd said:

 

All politics aside I highly doubt we are the 2nd worst in the world , although our official figures are abit dubious to say the least places like china and the likes are most likely just a pack of lies. Thats not to say were not making a total arse of it. If it wasn’t for trump and the Brazilian with their outright belligerent attitude then our handling of it would probably be the worst in the world .

 

I think it's accepted the vast majority of countries in the world are undercounting to some degree. Whether that is due to political reasons for keeping numbers down (China, Brazil, U.K?.) or in the case for example of Italy or Spain where it's not been possible to properly count care home deaths due to no testing (I think that is probably the case in most of Europe). Or just third world countries like Ecuador or Indonesia where the system can't cope.

it doesn't mean that the tories have made arse of it but I really I think excess mortality is really going to be the only way to see who is truly worst, and let's face it that probably really works for Europe and other developed countries.

[Granny Danger]

37 minutes ago, Wee Willie said:

You could be describing the Windsor family.

I take it you're no independence-minded

Labour are still one cheek o' the same arse as far as Scotland is concerned.

They and the Tories are still supporting Trident in Scottish waters.

Still supporting Scotland paying her share of expensive English projects.

There's a yougov poll that I'm seeing on FB and it shows Labour on 15% in Scotland, Tories on 25% and SNP on 51%.

That doesn't show Labour in a particularly good light in Scotland.

It’s good to see you back posting Willie, however it’s sad that you still have the same blinkered approach.

Like you I want Independence, I like you I recognise that whilst we are still part of the U.K. then what happens at Westminster is important and relevant to Scotland.

[jagfox]

Ireland - Easing the COVID-19 restrictions on 18 May (Phase 1)

[peasy23]

[MuckleMoo]

These have probably been reposted already, but I’m bored and they are still funny.

Funnily enough I started reading the thread from the start last night. I don't think@JTS98 got enough credit for his predictions. Pretty much called it from the very beginning. Going to go back and greeny some of his posts.

[Melanius Mullarkey]

1 hour ago, Mastermind said:

- Boris not dead yet m8? 

Hard to tell.

[Wee Willie]

12 minutes ago, Granny Danger said:

It’s good to see you back posting Willie, however it’s sad that you still have the same blinkered approach.

Like you I want Independence, I like you I recognise that whilst we are still part of the U.K. then what happens at Westminster is important and relevant to Scotland.

Thanks GD. I'm 77 and will never change my blinkered approach to independence.

Bob Mahelps post implies that there is only one option other than the Tories.

If he had written- In England the one bright light - then fair do's although I wouldn't call the Labour party a shining example.

The fact is that in Scotland we have another option and for folk on here and elsewhere to ignore that option makes me angry.

I ken we are still part of the UK but you and I and most folk on this forum can only vote in Scotland so in a way it's irrelevant what Bob Mahelp wrote.

We cannae influence the vote in England.

 

 

 

[vikingTON]

3 hours ago, throbber said:

At least we are in a fairly strong position in that we can monitor how well other countries respond to easing restrictions in the coming weeks.

The UK government was in a similar position of strength when the virus was rolling through northern Italy on the other side of this peak but still made a roaring c**t of it.

[HeartsOfficialMoaner]

Tories are guilty as helI but the others stood and watched.

I cannot remember if anyone from the Labour/SNP were complaining, no demonstrations, no insisting that we needed to lockdown. 

[Carl Cort's Hamstring]

11 hours ago, pandarilla said:

I think there will be a lot of this going on.

I'd you're daft enough to publicise it, then you've got to take the flack.

I was in school this week looking after the key worker children, and every one of them had had someone come to their home to do their hair.

[AsimButtHitsASix]

7 minutes ago, virginton said:

The UK government was in a similar position of strength when the virus was rolling through northern Italy on the other side of this peak but still made a roaring c**t of it.

To be fair to the UK government they pretty much had to pause any potential lockdown measures til after the horse racing. A wee jolly at the Cheltenham festival is far more important than people's lives

[DeeTillEhDeh]

The Herald confirms what many have said about brass neck care home bosses.

[DeeTillEhDeh]

Part of the art of good politics is timing, this is possibly more the case in opposition.
Overt political attacks in the midst of a crisis could have a negative impact.
I believe that is why Sturgeon, whilst trying to do what is best for Scotland, has been wary of outright criticism of the U.K. government.
I think Starmer will also choose his time carefully but when they both go on the attack I hope it is all guns blazing.  Let’s face it there is plenty of ammunition.
(No puns intended).

Absolutely.

There is a time and place to do it - yes hold governments to account but avoid overt political attacks.

Maybe someone should point this out to Jackson Carlaw.

[DeeTillEhDeh]

Which Tesco was this? I was in the one on Riverside Dundee today and pretty much everyone was tuned in to social distancing and giving their fellow shoppers adequate space.

Can't talk about Tesco but I'm avoiding Asda Milton because there are too many blatantly ignoring social distancing.

They are also letting in far too many into the stores. Lots of family groups - we are talking parents with adult children - just unacceptable imho.

Sainsburys seems better - when I was in last week the manager asked at 2 young couples to decide which of them was doing the shop and who was going to wait outside.

[DiegoDiego]

I think it's accepted the vast majority of countries in the world are undercounting to some degree. Or just third world countries like Ecuador or Indonesia where the system can't cope.

I posted about this earlier but Indonesia has somehow not been affected that badly despite having a metric fuckton of Chinese tourists. Daily deaths have barely changed compared to 2019.