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3 minutes ago, djchapsticks said:

This was exactly my point when it was first speculated a few weeks ago. 

The mental health issues that have been caused by this and will continue to be caused through loss of freedom to go about lives, loss of jobs, worry about losing homes etc are going to be far more terrible and long lasting than the pandemic itself. 

This doesn't factor in the very real chance that no effective vaccine actually gets developed. We're essentially staving it off and waiting for something that we don't actually know is going to happen. If there was concrete feedback that yes, a vaccine works but there is just a backlog in producing doses, I'd perhaps feel different and understand the need to keep the wolf from the door but there is absolutely nothing concrete so far to confirm that this is 100% going to be the case. 

 

I think you need to factor the time of year as well. Its getting darker and the nights are closing in. At least late march and April were lovely and had the opposite thing happening. 

There was also a sense of fear and folk did feel they were all in it together. That's certainly not the case now.  

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2 minutes ago, Paco said:

 

Closing gyms and pubs is fucking stupid though. Enter Rishi Sunak who is expected to announce an economic package today which will make this possible in Newcastle and Liverpool due to rising rates (they’re about double Glasgow currently).
 

 

Correct. I'm currently in gym just now and it's absolutely spotless, everyone far apart, no dramas. 

I work from home every day, sit in front of a PC, interact very little with anyone apart from my partner and this will be the case for the foreseeable. Aside from my work, all I have just now to keep me sane is the gym as I literally do nothing else. 

My partner built her own hairdressing salon in a separate building on our property and runs it as a legitimate business. Although it's on our property, there is no crossover from our home, it even has its own toilet so no one actually comes into our house. She has gone to massive lengths to ensure this is as legit as possible and follows every guideline, equipment cleaned in barbicide, all surfaces wiped, strictly one in at a time. 

The thought that she's worked so hard to get this business started and has broken no rules but has to close for the foreseeable is a huge mental and financial stress on both of us. 

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14 minutes ago, Scary Bear said:

I was assuming there would be an even spread of the virus about society. I don’t see why that wouldn’t be the case.

This time round the most at risk are more aware of the risks and the need for social distancing, masks, etc. so I suppose you could be right.

The spread will likely be even, but the impact not so much.  And, as you say, we are better prepared now so deaths should be less prevalent even if the number of cases was the same or even more now compared to then.

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Personally I like the system they’ve used in Paris. Above 250 cases per 100,000 and ICU capacity above 30% and they’ll
Impose strict lockdown measures. At least people know where they stand. Locking down the whole country to only stay in your own local authority seems mad to me when they made it clear that local lockdowns would be the way forward. It’s pretty clear where cases are an issue just now (using a metric of over 100 cases per 100,000). But no, let’s just put the whole country in lockdown for two weeks and see what happens [emoji848]

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What a surprise. Measures mooted as a possibility and frequently hinted at thereafter come to pass. 

More surprises: with Sturgeon having gone first, Sunak is prepping a financial package to facilitate this in England as well. Will Matt Hancock appear today and tell us there will be no circuit breaker in England, only to be overruled in 48hrs? 

Already looking forward to Sturgeon and Johnson's gormless bleatings in late November when we're back in this position again and everything's shut down. 

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5 minutes ago, Tynierose said:

Don't worry Devi says go for a walk and tough shit we're all in same boat.  This despite an avalanche of new and worsening mental health cases.  She's a moron.

It's Scotland, though - even in the driving rain people are out running. What a country. ❤️

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5 post that will f**k Scotland,

You do know why yer fucked.......the people did it.

2 hours ago, djchapsticks said:

This constant brinkmanship, this threat of 'ohhhh, ohhhh, I'm gonny do it, I'm gonny do it' is fucking wearing thin. 

They reintroduced tighter restrictions less than 2 weeks ago, fully in the knowledge and public admission that it's around a 3 week period before you see the benefits of any such actions in reported numbers. So what is with all the knee jerk reactionary nonsense? 

Again, a 2 week circuit break lockdown will not even generate an outcome in terms of numbers by the time the lockdown is scheduled to end. Any drops seen at the end of that period would be as a result of the current restrictions. 

Unfortunately, it's becoming more and more apparent that our government, like their gormless Westminster counterparts who made it immediate obvious they didn't have a scooby, actually don't know what they are doing either! 

 

1 hour ago, Steven W said:

She's enjoying it. She is.

This was hinted at weeks ago and was always going to happen.

Dictatorship so it is.

 

1 hour ago, Scary Bear said:

It seems to me that the Scottish Government always feels it needs to be seen to be doing something when it comes to COVID-19. They are trying too hard. If I was them I’d keep going with the wear a mask, social distance, wash your hands messaging and just let people get on with it.  I’d also like to hear what the outcomes have been for the majority of these thousands of people testing positive.

If they announce another lockdown for the October holidays I won’t be happy. I get that there are more cases being reported but presumably that’s because we’re actually testing thousands of people now, where as back in the Spring you were only getting tested if you went to hospital. If deaths start rising dramatically that’s when they should be ramping up restrictions.

 

1 hour ago, philpy said:

This is Just going to set people right back.  I really hope she realises that it will f**k with people's mental health big style. 

 

1 hour ago, Steven W said:

How many lives will this save?

Stop fucking crying like a baby, and get it together.......

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5 minutes ago, SlipperyP said:

How fucking daft is that statement, you as a  UK goverment (higher in scotch) killing more folk than REST OF THE WORLD, 

sit back enjoy

 

I’m not in the UK government gadge. Put your suggestions in a postcard and send them to Boris and Wee Nic. They need all the help they can get.

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3 minutes ago, invergowrie arab said:

This thread is all the evidence you need that COVID has affected the mental health of the nation.

Previously happy go lucky guys whipped up into a panic and state of FB maw-ness about things that may or may not ever happen.

Crazy that people have opinions on a global health crisis which is impacting literally every single aspect of their lives

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It seems to me that the Scottish Government always feels it needs to be seen to be doing something when it comes to COVID-19. They are trying too hard. If I was them I’d keep going with the wear a mask, social distance, wash your hands messaging and just let people get on with it. 


I wonder if they have to be seen to be doing something, but deep down, (probably the wrong way to word this) but seeing it as a positive that rates are going up, because it increases the chances of herd immunity.?
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1 hour ago, Scary Bear said:

I was assuming there would be an even spread of the virus about society. I don’t see why that wouldn’t be the case.

This time round the most at risk are more aware of the risks and the need for social distancing, masks, etc. so I suppose you could be right.

I don't think there is an even spread but it comes in clusters. 

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15 minutes ago, Scary Bear said:

I’m not in the UK government gadge. Put your suggestions in a postcard and send them to Boris and Wee Nic. They need all the help they can get.

You really didnt see ......Your Govermen have killed a sickening amount of foolk with their options of life........We put the old to death....who next?  Arsholes? thats when you need......

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