D.A.F.C Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Well given the no doubt millions of people who have had it in the UK alone, a huge number of whom have been asymptomatic which is the crux of the difficulty in tackling it, I think you can say it's safe for the majority of people to catch covid, just like it's safe for the majority of people to catch flu. Horrible, yeah. Worthy of telling people they are not allowed to socialise in person with other humans? Maybe not for me tbh. Dont disagree but passing it on is the thing that bothers me. Plus I've seen a family member have their life destroyed due to a lung disease so I wouldn't wish that on anyone. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, D.A.F.C said: 6 minutes ago, Bairnardo said: Well given the no doubt millions of people who have had it in the UK alone, a huge number of whom have been asymptomatic which is the crux of the difficulty in tackling it, I think you can say it's safe for the majority of people to catch covid, just like it's safe for the majority of people to catch flu. Horrible, yeah. Worthy of telling people they are not allowed to socialise in person with other humans? Maybe not for me tbh. Dont disagree but passing it on is the thing that bothers me. Plus I've seen a family member have their life destroyed due to a lung disease so I wouldn't wish that on anyone. Neither would I. I wouldnt wish death of flu on anyone, but I also wouldnt expect to be told to put my life on indefinite hold to prevent it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aufc Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 For me April all outdoor settings re open face coverings in thoroughfares and hand sanitiser upon entry and exit with the app still being promoted from May indoor settings with 2m distancing reducing to 1m in the 3rd week of May and then early June take a look and see how hospitalisations and public compliance with self isolation are going if hospitalisations are really low and people if they are positive or close contact are self isolating then by 20th of June hopefully it's just reminding people to wash their hands no go out if they have symptoms and we can have a fairly normal life.Any chance of a full stop? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambomo Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 15 minutes ago, virginton said: Turns out that 'view from the ivory tower' - such is the benefit of an elevated viewpoint - in fact provided a fortnight's advance notice of the UK governments' inevitable concession today. You can in fact close schools in the middle of a pandemic and oblige parents/businesses to make it work. Welcome to life in the real world guys! You were talking about people using annual or parental leave to stay off to look after kids. That’s isn’t what’s happening. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Capsule Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Not sure whether to post this in here or the Guitarist thread. Apparently conspiracy theorists are posting a circuit diagram for the 5G chip that's going to be in the covid vaccine (obviously) but its actually for the Boss Metal Zone distortion pedal...https://www.guitarworld.com/news/conspiracy-theorists-share-schematic-for-5g-chip-they-claim-is-implanted-in-covid-19-vaccines-only-its-actually-for-the-boss-metal-zoneI'm a total mosher and even I think that's the worst effects pedal ever so I can see why people think it's being used for something else... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thereisalight.. Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 58 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: Elite sport, including the Premier League, in England suspended. I assume we will do the same up here. Do we have enough time to complete our fixtures up here, including the playoffs, before the Euros if we follow suit? a moot question seeing as Sky got it wrong, but the fact the 19/20 cup was played in the 20/21 season would probably mean theyd finish this season before starting another one. As it should 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Swinney showing his ignorance/incompetence again. Earlier he urged the SFA to look into Celtic's trip to Dubai. Celtic have responded by saying that not only did Holyrood know about the trip, they gave permission for it to go ahead as far back as 12th November 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 9 minutes ago, Bairnardo said: Neither would I. I wouldnt wish death of flu on anyone, but I also wouldnt expect to be told to put my life on indefinite hold to prevent it. A good time to remind everyone that if everyone washed their hands properly 1 million less people would die from diarrheic disease and I would imagine it would probably be a couple of thousand world wide from the flu. One thing I hope that remains is hand washing facilities going in and out of shops Just now, Aufc said: Any chance of a full stop? nah its all one sentence 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Tattiescone Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 6 hours ago, DiegoDiego said: Over a third of the population are elderly or vulnerable? Some fucking country we live in. 43% of Scots are classified as disabled or chronically ill https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2211335516300894 Quote Since the 1950′s, Scottish life expectancy has improved more slowly than in other comparably wealthy nations. Furthermore, 43% of adults are classified as chronically ill or disabled and, despite medical advances, all-cause mortality in younger age categories (15–44 years) remains non-declining at a rate of 142.4 deaths per 100,000 (Bromley and Shelton, 2010). In addition, current suicide rates are 50% higher than in 1968 (Whyte and Ajetunmobi, 2010), obesity is on the rise, and general levels of physical activity are diminishing (Scottish Government and Convention of Scottish Local Authorities, 2010). As a consequence of this poor health record, and mortality rates persistently higher than European averages, Scotland has been dubbed ‘the sick man of Europe’, and the phenomenon of these unexplained health disparities labelled the ‘Scottish effect’ (Bromley and Shelton, 2010, Shelton, 2009, Whyte and Ajetunmobi, 2010). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A.F.C Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 14 minutes ago, Bairnardo said: Neither would I. I wouldnt wish death of flu on anyone, but I also wouldnt expect to be told to put my life on indefinite hold to prevent it. It will change eventually, don’t try to fight something that you have no control over. Apart from the obvious. What’s the point of getting upset over it now? You can’t change any decisions. Not trying to be a dick, honestly just focus on what you can do and enjoy that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 47 minutes ago, Forest_Fifer said: Not sure whether to post this in here or the Guitarist thread. Apparently conspiracy theorists are posting a circuit diagram for the 5G chip that's going to be in the covid vaccine (obviously) but its actually for the Boss Metal Zone distortion pedal... https://www.guitarworld.com/news/conspiracy-theorists-share-schematic-for-5g-chip-they-claim-is-implanted-in-covid-19-vaccines-only-its-actually-for-the-boss-metal-zone I've got one of those in a cupboard somewhere! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s_dog Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 12 minutes ago, peasy23 said: Swinney showing his ignorance/incompetence again. Earlier he urged the SFA to look into Celtic's trip to Dubai. Celtic have responded by saying that not only did Holyrood know about the trip, they gave permission for it to go ahead as far back as 12th November November 12th is a long, long time ago and things have changed considerably in the past couple of weeks. So just before Christmas when the gov advised against travelling across the border, and then said "there must be no non-essential travel between Scotland and other parts of the UK. That advice also applies to overseas travel." Did someone at Parkhead not maybe think their trip to Dubai was no longer a goer? 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 On the vaccines, yeah it's great we're third in the world behind Israel & Bahrain in how many we've vaccinated so far, but we were the first country in the world to start vaccinations. And obviously the important bit is getting all those vulnerable to serious ill-health and death vaccinated, but it's pretty sobering to hear vaccinating the full adult population of the UK will take two years to complete, if we are vaccinating 1 million a week. 6 years at the current rate. [emoji44] Using "the current rate" is completely pointless given that up until now they've relied on the more difficult to administer Pfizer vaccine, but are now just starting to roll out the mass-produced Astra Zeneca one.It would be like me leaving the house in the morning and walking to the train station, then working out how long it would take me to get to work if I kept walking rather than getting on the train. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugster Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 49 minutes ago, virginton said: Turns out that 'view from the ivory tower' - such is the benefit of an elevated viewpoint - in fact provided a fortnight's advance notice of the UK governments' inevitable concession today. You can in fact close schools in the middle of a pandemic and oblige parents/businesses to make it work. Welcome to life in the real world guys! I don’t know why you’re quoting me, I never at any stage said you couldn’t close schools at short notice, I merely pointed out the error strewn nonsense in your post. Which hasn’t changed and is still baloney. Maybe you should check your notes again. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 November 12th is a long, long time ago and things have changed considerably in the past couple of weeks. So just before Christmas when the gov advised against travelling across the border, and then said "there must be no non-essential travel between Scotland and other parts of the UK. That advice also applies to overseas travel." Did someone at Parkhead not maybe think their trip to Dubai was no longer a goer? Agreed. But if the trip was known about at Holyrood they should have been telling Celtic that permission had been rescinded when we went into tier 4, not allowing the trip to go ahead then moan about it after the fact. Celtic have dropped a huge PR clanger among their own support by going ahead with it, at least if any of my mates are anything to go by. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 41 minutes ago, Jambomo said: You were talking about people using annual or parental leave to stay off to look after kids. That’s isn’t what’s happening. That's exactly what people will be doing up and down the country, for the foreseeable future. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s_dog Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 12 minutes ago, craigkillie said: Using "the current rate" is completely pointless given that up until now they've relied on the more difficult to administer Pfizer vaccine, but are now just starting to roll out the mass-produced Astra Zeneca one. It would be like me leaving the house in the morning and walking to the train station, then working out how long it would take me to get to work if I kept walking rather than getting on the train. Fair enough, just making the point it's going to take a while.... Also, might as well say the two years at 1 million a week is pointless too, as according to Freeman today, it's going to be nearer the end of January before we even get the bulk of the early doses from Astra Zeneca. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 12 minutes ago, peasy23 said: Agreed. But if the trip was known about at Holyrood they should have been telling Celtic that permission had been rescinded when we went into tier 4, not allowing the trip to go ahead then moan about it after the fact. Celtic have dropped a huge PR clanger among their own support by going ahead with it, at least if any of my mates are anything to go by. I didn't realise Celtic were not responsible for themselves. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambomo Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 10 minutes ago, virginton said: That's exactly what people will be doing up and down the country, for the foreseeable future. They won’t. They’ll either be working from home (so both looking after kids & working) or if they cannot work, they’ll be furloughed. You can’t make people take annual leave for this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Jambomo said: They won’t. They’ll either be working from home (so both looking after kids & working) or if they cannot work, they’ll be furloughed. You can’t make people take annual leave for this. Yes employers can and will. There is no obligation on employers to furlough employees to allow employees to look after their kids. Edited January 4, 2021 by strichener 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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