pandarilla Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 ICU figure today up a fair bit to 123. Very small increase in overall hospital numbers to 1598.So is it clear and widely accepted that this new strain is a serious one?I was hoping for a large rise in cases but for the hospital numbers to be pretty stable - but it's not happening.We really are still fucked with this virus, certainly until most folk are vaccinated. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scosha Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 1 minute ago, pandarilla said: So is it clear and widely accepted that this new strain is a serious one? I was hoping for a large rise in cases but for the hospital numbers to be pretty stable - but it's not happening. We really are still fucked with this virus, certainly until most folk are vaccinated. Will this not just be a lag of people who were infect pre lockdown? I’d imagine these numbers will drop significantly in the coming weeks due to lockdown. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Better not try this up here, the pensioners round here would smash the surgery up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distant Doonhamer Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, pandarilla said: So is it clear and widely accepted that this new strain is a serious one? I was hoping for a large rise in cases but for the hospital numbers to be pretty stable - but it's not happening. We really are still fucked with this virus, certainly until most folk are vaccinated. To be honest I was certain the hospital numbers would rise. This new variant is clearly more transmissible but I never bought into any notion that it would be less serious in terms of hospital numbers. They were always going to rise. There is some evidence that the number of infections is again beginning to plateau and even fall so I'd hope hospital numbers will begin to do so in 10 days or so. Agree vaccination is absolutely key though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 5 hours ago, Tynierose said: When I was doing my union secondment we all used to dread being allocated the student nurse cases. They were mostly a nightmare with some really bizarre people that you wouldn't trust to look after a snail never mind a human. The universities get funds for how many people are on the course I think so the vetting at times wasn't overly stringent hence why so many weirdos get in to courses. Upon entering the wards it becomes quickly apparent that there is a student that's wrong un, the university gets phoned and that's when the fun starts. You then find out said loon has attempted to be a just about everything before trying the nursing gig and it's always everyone else to blame. Happy days. They are probably just in it for the footballers wages. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclizine Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Distant Doonhamer said: To be honest I was certain the hospital numbers would rise. This new variant is clearly more transmissible but I never bought into any notion that it would be less serious in terms of hospital numbers. They were always going to rise. There is some evidence that the number of infections is again beginning to plateau and even fall so I'd hope hospital numbers will begin to do so in 10 days or so. Agree vaccination is absolutely key though. We have been somewhat insulated in Scotland so far. It's a fucking warzone in London at the moment. We never quite reached the point where our usual Level 3 intensive care protocols were breached, but that's now happening in London. One nurse looking after multiple ventilated patients; number of patients per doctor over the standard; critical care being delivered in non-ICU areas; oxygen supply issues. This is the point that people will start to die from "sub-standard" care, because it is impossible to provide standard care. Hopeful we will avoid this up here, we just about managed last time, but we're already having capacity problems. We're at about 180% currently. The patients don't turn around quickly. Edited January 10, 2021 by Cyclizine 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distant Doonhamer Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Cyclizine said: We have been somewhat insulated in Scotland so far. It's a fucking warzone in London at the moment. We never quite reached the point where our usual Level 3 intensive care protocols were breached, but that's now happening in London. One nurse looking after multiple ventilated patients; number of patients per doctor over the standard; critical care being delivered in non-ICU areas; oxygen supply issues. Hopeful we will avoid this up here, we just about managed last time, but we're already having capacity problems. We're at about 180% currently. The patients don't turn around quickly. Agree with all of that. It's way better here than down South but precarious nonetheless. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclizine Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 (edited) A good statement from the British Society for Immunology. Recognises that the changes to dosing intervals are not fully backed up by research, but expert opinion is that it isn't likely to change individuals' risk, but pragmatically allows more vulnerable people to be vaccinated. https://www.immunology.org/policy-and-public-affairs/briefings-and-position-statements/COVID-19-vaccine-dosing-schedules Edited January 10, 2021 by Cyclizine 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 45 minutes ago, Scosha said: Will this not just be a lag of people who were infect pre lockdown? I’d imagine these numbers will drop significantly in the coming weeks due to lockdown. The 'real' lockdown from March reduced the transmission rate to about 0.6-0.7. It's hard to see how this one with about 17 million extra justifications for non-essential interaction will get close to that, so simply keeping the rates level is about all you can expect until the vaccinations kick in. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_Stewart Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 What a bunch of fucking cretins 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizfit Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 What a bunch of fucking cretinsTruncheons to faces. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 (edited) 46 minutes ago, J_Stewart said: What a bunch of fucking cretins Fineing 2 friends in the park for drinking tea and then let hundreds of people watch a bus drive past. Edited January 10, 2021 by Theroadlesstravelled 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 4 hours ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: No where near enough police officers to fulfill that function in Scotland. There also isnt border control infrastructure on main routes let alone at Coldstream etc. The border at Coldstream is a bridge over the Tweed so you could block that. I was on a scout camp in Coldstream years ago and us mini-McGlashans walked over the bridge, pissed on England, and walked back again. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1885 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Pubs shut till May bank holiday lads hwfg, fs all I want is a pint!!1!!1! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 57 minutes ago, J_Stewart said: What a bunch of fucking cretins Scousers waiting to see if the bus stops long enough to steal the wheels 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heedthebaa Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 6 hours ago, Juanhourjoe said: I'm not saying people set up right on the border checking every vehicle. But putting it into law I would assume keeps the numbers low. And a couple of traffic cops can take a drive along border roads throughout the day. And stop any car they see on a quiet road. Nice big fine as well if you don't have a good reason to be out. I don't see why any trains should be running either. The polis have had little or no interest at the A1 border 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
printer Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 On 08/01/2021 at 20:09, Gaz said: Can we all agree that D.A.F.C's biggest crime is not having a full stop after the C in his user name? DAFC. has it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 1 hour ago, J_Stewart said: What a bunch of fucking cretins I thought Spurs would have a better bus than that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effeffsee_the2nd Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 The polis have had little or no interest at the A1 borderThe seethe from the yoons would be worth it alone#buildthewall 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Bully Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 The 'real' lockdown from March reduced the transmission rate to about 0.6-0.7. It's hard to see how this one with about 17 million extra justifications for non-essential interaction will get close to that, so simply keeping the rates level is about all you can expect until the vaccinations kick in. And yet, not even a month ago, you were complaining that the SG were putting the Highlands into Level 4. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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