Billy Jean King Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 On a train into the office for the first time since face coverings became compulsory and surprise surprise about 1 in 3 aren't wearing one. They might fall into an exemption but somehow I doubt the majority do. Totally pointless if not enforced. Of those wearing a couple have them pulled down round their neck and only pulled them up if someone official looking walks up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said: How do you enforce a local lockdown and/or identify areas? Wouldn't you need to be proactive and actually put security of some type in to stop and remind people, with powers to find etc? I doubt the police would be able to do it without support. Non-essential shops are to shut and schools, to the extent they are back, have more or less had to do likewise. Imagine anyone in breach of this will be force closed and/or fined. Beyond that? Who knows. Edited June 30, 2020 by Michael W 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 If they're suggesting that the spike in Leicester has been brought about by people not observing social distancing is there likely to be a knock on effect from the celebrations in Liverpool, or the the numbers who congregated on Bournemouth beach? Remember it can take up to 2 weeks for symptoms to develop. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sergeant Wilson Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, Michael W said: Non-essential shops are to shut and schools, to the extent they are back, have more or less had to do likewise. Imagine anyone in breach of this will be force closed and/or fined. Beyond that? Who knows. I suppose that limits spread opportunities. I was thinking more of dafties jumping on the train to go for a pint in Derby or go shopping. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Man Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 1 minute ago, ICTJohnboy said: If they're suggesting that the spike in Leicester has been brought about by people not observing social distancing is there likely to be a knock on effect from the celebrations in Liverpool, or the the numbers who congregated on Bournemouth beach? Remember it can take up to 2 weeks for symptoms to develop. Victoria in Australia had to tighten up restrictions on the day it was due to ease them within 2 weeks of a massive BLM protest march. Not a coincidence IMO. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 I seen a program recently regarding viruses. The folk on it basically said they are constantly monitoring animal viruses for the potential for one to make the jump and then subsequently cause a pandemic.The gist of it was that there are millions of pathogens with the potential to do this at any given moment, and this has always been the case. Those attempting to monitor are swimming against the tide. Scaremongering pish. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 20 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said: On a train into the office for the first time since face coverings became compulsory and surprise surprise about 1 in 3 aren't wearing one. They might fall into an exemption but somehow I doubt the majority do. Totally pointless if not enforced. Of those wearing a couple have them pulled down round their neck and only pulled them up if someone official looking walks up. It's not totally pointless if about two-thirds of people are wearing them. It's perhaps less effective than it could be, but it's still doing something. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 Some mild hints for optimism https://theconversation.com/coronavirus-could-it-be-burning-out-after-20-of-a-population-is-infected-141584 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Dee Man said: Victoria in Australia had to tighten up restrictions on the day it was due to ease them within 2 weeks of a massive BLM protest march. Not a coincidence IMO. I won't be shedding many tears for any of these cretins on Bournemouth beach who were shitting into Tesco carrier bags then leaving them on the beach, if they end up catching Covid. ETA.. In fact it would almost be poetic justice! Edited June 30, 2020 by ICTJohnboy 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 9 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Some mild hints for optimism https://theconversation.com/coronavirus-could-it-be-burning-out-after-20-of-a-population-is-infected-141584 Pessimists could take a different view! Good article though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 7 hours ago, Gordon EF said: That's a bit of a stretch. Firstly, we don't know the extent of the seasonality of Covid-19 so saying "the fact that it is seasonal" is nonsense. It's warmer and more humid in Sao Paulo in June than it is in Edinburgh. So it can hardly be the traditional seasonality factors that's causing the difference. Also, the US is seeing rising rates smack bang in the middle of their summer. There are so many other factors going on at the moment with countries being hit at different times, to different degrees and taking different approaches, it's absolutely wild to try and draw out these kinds of seasonality conclusions at the moment. It seems a reasonable bet that there will be a seasonality to Covid-19 because that's what we see with similar viruses. When it's 20C and mostly cloudy in Sao Paulo the locals think it's baltic cold and head indoors; in Edinburgh that's considered taps aff weather. In the southern states of the US where the biggest surge in cases is happening, it's also now 'stay indoors and turn the air conditioning on 24/7' season. It's probably being driven far more by seasonal behavioural changes than the objective weather conditions. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 But why have the good citizens of Leicester thought it appropriate to flout the regulations ? Virus does not spread by magic. May be an element of what you reap is what you sow. What evidence do we have of this? Why do you think the folk of Leicester have been worse than any other place? If they're suggesting that the spike in Leicester has been brought about by people not observing social distancing is there likely to be a knock on effect from the celebrations in Liverpool, or the the numbers who congregated on Bournemouth beach? Remember it can take up to 2 weeks for symptoms to develop. There's been reports of this for months, from the ve day celebrations, to all the other shit that folk have been raging about.The obvious fact of the matter is if there's noone in the attendance of said event who has the virus then folk can congregate as much as they like.Being in crowds does not create this virus - but it does spread it when there's some b*****d (s) in there who is infectious.The community transmission in Scotland has got to be about zero at the moment - as our numbers are fantastically low. Our testing system appears to have been a huge success (thankfully not hired out to a bunch of private charlatans), and sturgeon has pretty much got the pace of easing right.I would have liked a clearer breakdown of where the cases were - hospitals / care homes / community but other than that they've handled this crisis very well, with the obvious exception of early on.Westminster have been very quick to ease, and if you combine this with a fucked up testing system then you've got these kinds of problems. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 1 minute ago, virginton said: When it's 20C and mostly cloudy in Sao Paulo the locals think it's baltic cold and head indoors; in Edinburgh that's considered taps aff weather. In the southern states of the US where the biggest surge in cases is happening, it's also now 'stay indoors and turn the air conditioning on 24/7' season. It's probably being driven far more by seasonal behavioural changes than the objective weather conditions. That's certainly possible although the normal flu season in Texas, at least, seems to be October to May. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 38 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Some mild hints for optimism https://theconversation.com/coronavirus-could-it-be-burning-out-after-20-of-a-population-is-infected-141584 I'm not so sure - a lot of "on the one hand", "on the other hand" stuff. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 The reason meat processing plants are petri dishes for the virus is thought to be the cold temperatures they're kept at, so climate could play a role. But once it's kicked off warm temperatures don't seem to kill it off, see Iran for example. Went rampant in the relatively cold winter temperatures but is muddling on through the blisteringly hot summer. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkmenbashi Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, welshbairn said: The reason meat processing plants are petri dishes for the virus is thought to be the cold temperatures they're kept at, so climate could play a role. But once it's kicked off warm temperatures don't seem to kill it off, see Iran for example. Went rampant in the relatively cold winter temperatures but is muddling on through the blisteringly hot summer. Isn't it more down to poor ventilation and recycled air, rather than temperatures in the meat processing plants 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A.F.C Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 Bonfire of the pigs...Mmmmm bacon 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 13 hours ago, Have some faith in Magic said: Leicester back on lockdown. Shops shut, schools closing down. ...and nothing of value was lost. NUNEATON YOUNG TEAM! #FuckLeicester 1 hour ago, Zen Archer Esq. said: No way that's real. They're basically shining on their entire supply chain with the last part. Like Cash Converters calling their customers thieving junkie tinks when they come in to flog their wean's collection of Xbox games. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 15 minutes ago, Turkmenbashi said: Isn't it more down to poor ventilation and recycled air, rather than temperatures in the meat processing plants There are probably lots of theories about it like everything else. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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