Coronavirus (COVID-19)

[Mark Connolly]

5 minutes ago, ICTChris said:

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/28/covid-crisis-inflames-neighbour-disputes?__twitter_impression=true

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A couple are having raucous parties in flagrant breach of the “rule of six”. An elderly woman with symptoms faces the fury of other residents by touching a communal door. A music teacher is imposing her students’ discordant notes on the flat downstairs. And a small child following an exercise routine has prompted a neighbour to declare: “I want to kill Joe Wicks.”

One of these things is not like the others

[Szamo's_Ammo]

4 minutes ago, Mark Connolly said:

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A couple are having raucous parties in flagrant breach of the “rule of six”. An elderly woman with symptoms faces the fury of other residents by touching a communal door. A music teacher is imposing her students’ discordant notes on the flat downstairs. And a small child following an exercise routine has prompted a neighbour to declare: “I want to kill Joe Wicks.”

 

These are a few of my favourite things.

[Mark Connolly]

15 minutes ago, ThatBoyRonaldo said:

What if I say I'm not just another one?

Aye alright Chrissie Hynde

[Inanimate Carbon Rod]

16 minutes ago, ThatBoyRonaldo said:

What if I say I'm not just another one?

Id say youre being a pretender. 

[madwullie]

Just properly reading that Sweden paper. It's actually really interesting. I didn't realise they also had a furlough of sorts too in badly affected sectors (media, arts, hospitality). 

Employers could make staff "redundant" at which point they only had to pay 30% of wages and the govt would pay the rest. 

A lot of other factors in Sweden too regarding the structure of their governmental systems, what ministers are / aren't allowed to do ete

[RiG]

7 minutes ago, madwullie said:

Just properly reading that Sweden paper. It's actually really interesting. I didn't realise they also had a furlough of sorts too in badly affected sectors (media, arts, hospitality). 

Employers could make staff "redundant" at which point they only had to pay 30% of wages and the govt would pay the rest. 

A lot of other factors in Sweden too regarding the structure of their governmental systems, what ministers are / aren't allowed to do ete

Unfortunately a lot of simpletons seem to think that Sweden just carried on as normal but that could hardly be further from the truth when you actually look into it.

[Silvio Tattiescone]

Was going to visit Lorca in Spain today to see if they had any Starfleet statues, but after reading the news I don't think I'll bother. 1000 cases in two weeks out of a population of 60,000. Yikes! They're possibly going into lockdown today. https://www.laopiniondemurcia.es/comunidad/2020/09/27/coronavirus-murcia-lorca-registra-1000/1148806.html

[peasy23]

Unsurprisingly, people are going to people's houses with a carry out when they are lobbed out the pub at 10, or having impromptu street parties. Amazing that nobody thought this might happen. [emoji849]

[Sergeant Wilson]

2 minutes ago, peasy23 said:

Unsurprisingly, people are going to people's houses with a carry out when they are lobbed out the pub at 10, or having impromptu street parties. Amazing that nobody thought this might happen.
 

I really don't get it. Have politicians forgotten why 10 o'clock closing was done say with? Quelle suprise, streets and transport busy all at once, binging before closing and carry out to people's houses. If we are trying to recreate the early 70s get the women's toilets taken out, stop selling food etc...being back real pubs!

[MuckleMoo]

The 10pm closing of pubs is being a bit over dramatised. Exactly the same happened when they shut at 11 down south. f**k all has changed

[Michael W]

The list of clangers is almost endless. Politicians I have little faith in any way,  but how on earth did this get missed by the Health experts and that unit of Behaviour experts that allegedly informed the first lockdown? Its inexcusable. 

Schools - see yesterday's Tweet; case numbers rising immediately identifiable with the schools going back, 

Students back at uni - cases flying up as students party. 

Pubs - party continues elsewhere (at least in England where this is technically allowed subject to restrictions, which are probably ignored anyway) and chaos as everyone is kicked out at once.

I think the pubs moaning is all a bit po-faced, but can see the wider picture about the restrictions in place undermining the entire point of them.

Just what did they think was going to happen?! Everyone would file out the pubs one-by-one in a two metre queue and wait 2hrs to get on the bus home to make sure social distancing was kept? That students would just spend their first few days away from home in their rooms not interacting? That schools were somehow "low risk" despite throwing 30 people from different households into a small room for six hours a day? 

Utterly delusional stuff. Well done to all concerned. 

Edited September 28, 2020 by Michael W

[D.A.F.C]

The list of clangers is almost endless. Politicians I have little faith in any way,  but how on earth did this get missed by the Health experts and that unit of Behaviour experts that allegedly informed the first lockdown? Its inexcusable. 

Schools - see yesterday's Tweet; case numbers rising immediately identifiable with the schools going back, 

Students back at uni - cases flying up as students party. 

Pubs - party continues elsewhere (at least in England where this is technically allowed subject to restrictions, which are probably ignored anyway) and chaos as everyone is kicked out at once. 

Just what did they think was going to happen?! Everyone would file out the pubs one-by-one in a two metre queue and wait 2hrs to get on the bus home to make sure social distancing was kept? That students would just spend their first few days away from home in their rooms not interacting? That schools were somehow "low risk" despite throwing 30 people from different households into a small room for six hours a day? 

Utterly delusional stuff. Well done to all concerned. 

Prwtty much if money is involved then science goes out the window.

 

[ICTChris]

1 minute ago, MixuFruit said:

We should get in some of those ISIS boys as consultants on clamping down on debauchery and profligacy now they're at a loose end.

They are all dead Mixu.

[Sergeant Wilson]

Just now, Michael W said:

The list of clangers is almost endless. Politicians I have little faith in any way,  but how on earth did this get missed by the Health experts and that unit of Behaviour experts that allegedly informed the first lockdown? Its inexcusable. 

Schools - see yesterday's Tweet; case numbers rising immediately identifiable with the schools going back, 

Students back at uni - cases flying up as students party. 

Pubs - party continues elsewhere (at least in England where this is technically allowed subject to restrictions, which are probably ignored anyway) and chaos as everyone is kicked out at once. 

Just what did they think was going to happen?! Everyone would file out the pubs one-by-one in a two metre queue and wait 2hrs to get on the bus home to make sure social distancing was kept? That students would just spend their first few days away from home in their rooms not interacting? That schools were somehow "low risk" despite throwing 30 people from different households into a small room for six hours a day? 

Utterly delusional stuff. Well done to all concerned. 

I wondered if it's a double bluff and rules being broken is exactly what was expected.

Anyway, I seldom see closing time these days. However, I will dust down my closing time argument.

 "Wan mair, c'mon, A've been here a' day, ye were happy tae take ma money then, ya cùnt! Wan mair, please...bastārd. 6 cans and a half bottle then, but A'm no' payin' your prices. I'll replace it the morra.

What a p***k A'm a regular here."

[invergowrie arab]

38 minutes ago, peasy23 said:

Unsurprisingly, people are going to people's houses with a carry out when they are lobbed out the pub at 10, or having impromptu street parties. Amazing that nobody thought this might happen.
 

This is England.

You can't buy alcohol after 10pm here and house gatherings are banned.

I'm not saying it's impossible for it to go on but if my experience of Dundee on Saturday night is typical then the town's here are dead.

[effeffsee_the2nd]

I really don't get it. Have politicians forgotten why 10 o'clock closing was done say with? Quelle suprise, streets and transport busy all at once, binging before closing and carry out to people's houses. If we are trying to recreate the early 70s get the women's toilets taken out, stop selling food etc...being back real pubs!

Here here! I started going out in the early 2000s and didn’t feel like a saw the best days, only the dying days of pubs in decline which the smoking ban put out of their misery!
Lets go back to the filthy manky hovels that smelt of pish from the front door, that were always thick with reek despite never being that busy ! The same auld c***s sitting in “ their” seat nursing one pint for hours . The kind of place where people were scared to venture into unless they knew someone who drank there. The kind where scraps would kick of at anytime and the staff did f**k all to intervene except tell them to take it outside!
Those were real fuckin pubs none of these fancy modern cocktail bars!

[Sergeant Wilson]

2 minutes ago, effeffsee_the2nd said:

Here here! I started going out in the early 2000s and didn’t feel like a saw the best days, only the dying days of pubs in decline which the smoking ban put out of their misery!
Lets go back to the filthy manky hovels that smelt of pish from the front door, that were always thick with reek despite never being that busy ! The same auld c***s sitting in “ their” seat nursing one pint for hours . The kind of place where people were scared to venture into unless they knew someone who drank there. The kind where scraps would kick of at anytime and the staff did f**k all to intervene except tell them to take it outside!
Those were real fuckin pubs none of these fancy modern cocktail bars!

Exactly, you're bringing a tear to my eye.

[Michael W]

9 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said:

I wondered if it's a double bluff and rules being broken is exactly what was expected.

Anyway, I seldom see closing time these days. However, I will dust down my closing time argument.

 "Wan mair, c'mon, A've been here a' day, ye were happy tae take ma money then, ya cùnt! Wan mair, please...bastārd. 6 cans and a half bottle then, but A'm no' payin' your prices. I'll replace it the morra.

What a p***k A'm a regular here."

Suppose it gives Good News Johnson the stick he needs to avoid seeming the bad guy and more like a spurned lover. 

" I trusted you, and you broke that trust! Now you'll be having no pubs you b*****d!"

[Sergeant Wilson]

1 minute ago, Michael W said:

Suppose it gives Good News Johnson the stick he needs to avoid seeming the bad guy and more like a spurned lover. 

" I trusted you, and you broke that trust! Now you'll be having no pubs you b*****d!"

I was thinking the opposite. 

 "You've fūcked it, we're not having any rules, don't blame me for your dead granny."

[ICTChris]

I suppose the people dancing in the streets or heading back to a house party has to be balanced with people not going out at all or leaving early.

Essentially though, pubs are fucked.  Huge numbers will close and when we emerge from this will have to be bought over and restarted by new owners.