Lyle Lanley Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Think today will confirm no fans at the Euro's in June and no fans back at stadiums until start of next year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Just now, Steven W said: Do you think they won't be? I've no idea. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fratelli Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Reaction to this amongst folk i follow on social media has been nuclear, major feeling of Sturgeon pissing on folks chips today. I think folk were maybe bit (understandably) carried away with the optimism of yesterday and it's sunk them to hear that we've still got a bit to go. I do understand folks frustrations with the general vague approach from Sturgeon and her refusal to give an exact roadmap like Johnson, but can see why she hasn't done that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Just now, Steven W said: Do you think they won't be? I would prefer them to be renamed tbh. England isn't using them this time, and the last thing we need is confusion with old copies with the same name. That way it would also feel like a clean break. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 18 hours ago, pozbaird said: Aye, very good. I thought I was an invincible superhero who couldn’t catch Covid? What the fcuk has a golf course got to do with anything? Turns out that so far, I haven’t caught as much as a cold. That’ll be because I obeyed the rules, have hardly done anything in nearly a year bar play some golf in the summer and did my shopping. I was open and honest about my shopping. When the shops we frequented were OK with us shopping as a couple - we did. In and out, quickly as possible. Since they tightened up on that, we have shopped alone. Been fcuking murder, I keep buying beer and bourbon. She’s not happy. Now, ignoring your shite snd getting back to facemasks... it’s seemingly all that really matters. The signs placed outside shops. The staff at the doors scanning for faces free of a piece of polyester shite. No-one seems to care about much else, as long as you have your facemask. Just my opinion. Aye, but you're half cut, why should you worry? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 That's not true though. In the Scottish tier system if you're in tier 3 or 4 you can't leave your LA (i.e. you can't visit relatives in a park who happen to live in a different LA) - but that isn't the case in EnglandIt's not to be level 3 as it was though, a new version to be announced next month. No way we will be confined to own LA when by then the stay at home order will have been removed weeks before that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty dingus Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 6 minutes ago, Thereisalight.. said: Absoutely mental that I've not been "allowed" to leave South Ayrshire since Nov (iirc). Depressing as fck Stop being a drama queen. Busses, trains, ferries etc are on, jump on one have a wee socially distanced day out FFS. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thereisalight.. Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, Am Featha *****h Nan Clach said: You're allowed to leave your local authority for exercise now. You're only allowed a maximum 5 miles of your LA area for exercise. Sadly 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, Steven W said: Do you think they won't be? If for no other reason than the tiers used bed and icu current capacity and forecasts in it's calculation which will require some degree of revision since by mid March we should be dropping both like a stone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibsFan Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 (edited) Can anyone hand on heart say that they expect Sturgeon, the SG and their advisors to suddenly have a change of heart at the end of April and accelerate towards ending any and all restrictions? Even if the data is showing that it would be on balance safe to do so? Nothing about their actions so far, right down to keeping almost all of Scotland in hugely restrictive tiers while cases were marginal last summer, suggests that's going to be the case. I think we're in for many more months of "we just don't know"ing and "we've got to be cautious"ing, and your best bet if you're Scottish and want to hug your granny again is that Johnson's roadmap pays off. Edited February 23, 2021 by HibsFan 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super_carson Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Just reading through the framework just now and saw this in reference to social distancing... Quote In being open and transparent about the challenges ahead I can say with a reasonable degree of certainty that some protective measures, such as physical distancing and face coverings, are likely to be necessary for some months yet, including for those who have been vaccinated. That's pretty vague to me, a few months might be May, July or even December. But does seem to suggest that it won't still be here into next year... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambomo Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 6 minutes ago, Steven W said: That's not true though. In the Scottish tier system if you're in tier 3 or 4 you can't leave your LA (i.e. you can't visit relatives in a park who happen to live in a different LA) - but that isn't the case in England Johnson doesn’t say anything (as far as I can see from media reports on it) about lifting geographical restrictions and I fully believe if he gets told by someone that he needs to then, word or no word, he’ll impose them. The tiers may also not look the same this time as they did last time and geographical travel might be ok. We need more information first. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocketman Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 10 minutes ago, craigkillie said: Tier 4 and Tier 3 didn't feel particularly different to me, since neither of them really allowed me to do most of the stuff I actually enjoy doing in my life - especially travelling between council areas. Cafes being open is a slight bonus I suppose. quite the hobby you've got yourself there. Local authority jumping? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, Lyle Lanley said: Think today will confirm no fans at the Euro's in June and no fans back at stadiums until start of next year. Yes, I can see why a plan which only gets up to mid-April would confirm that there will still be severe restrictions by December in a fully vaccinated country. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 21 minutes ago, bernardblack said: Nice wee dog at Boris saying she won’t pick an arbitrary date. Yes, she won't set out any 'arbitrary dates' for reopening: which must come as a great relief to businesses who much prefer arbitrary announcements by the Chief Clownshoe about which tier they've been assigned to by the tombola system, a few days in advance. That's a much more rational planning strategy. [/sarcasm] 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H Wragg Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Football is my religion; "Goals" in Shawlands is my churchGoals has been unofficially open throughout until they finally chained the goals together a few weeks ago. [emoji16] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 7 minutes ago, craigkillie said: The biggest issue for me is the lack of a clear end point to all of this. I'm not talking about a date, I'm talking about a "at some point in the future we will be lifting these restrictions roughly in this order". The tier system doesn't do that, because even Tier 0 is still full of restrictions. There should be a very clear message that at some point, some time in the future, all of the restrictions will be listed, ideally with at least some indication of what is needed for that to happen. Aye, basically this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgecutter Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, Fratelli said: Reaction to this amongst folk i follow on social media has been nuclear, major feeling of Sturgeon pissing on folks chips today. I see from the comments sections that some are taking this better than others: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Am Featha Taigh Nan Clach Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, Thereisalight.. said: You're only allowed a maximum 5 miles of your LA area for exercise. Sadly Yes. So you are allowed to leave South Ayrshire 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven W Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Just now, Gaz said: I've no idea. They might be tweaked - who knows? But Just now, Todd_is_God said: I would prefer them to be renamed tbh. England isn't using them this time, and the last thing we need is confusion with old copies with the same name. That way it would also feel like a clean break. They need re-visited (and possibly re-named). I and many, many others across the country haven't seen parents / grandparents who live in different local authorties for months as it stands at the minute, never mind edging it out to the end of April. To then follow it up with Tier 3 (which doesn't allow cross local authority travel) for an indefinte amount of time is pretty harsh. I'd hope the tier system be tweaked to allow people to cross into other LAs in order to meet parents / grandparents in a park for example. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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