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12 minutes ago, Gaz said:

Absolute scenes when Sturgeon congratulates them on their first title

If she doesn't do this just before a Scottish election, the SNP's entire PR team should be sacked on the spot.  Open goal here...

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19 minutes ago, 101 said:

It's frustrating to not see a statement from any of the governing bodies condemning last night they are always utterly toothless when it comes to properly reprimanding the old firm. 

I see that the Celtic shop was smashed up last night so maybe the SPFL will crumble when Celtic start to moan.

The football governing bodies have no control over what happens in the middle of a city on what wasn't even a matchday for the club involved.

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Just now, craigkillie said:

The governing bodies have no control over what happens in the middle of a city.

No I agree but as the media scramble to shoe all of football in together it would be good to have the governing bodies say that the events at Ibrox on Saturday and Sunday and then the events at George Square on Sunday were unacceptable and leave it at that.

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2 minutes ago, Stormzy said:

It was always unlikely to affect UEFA's stance.

As are yesterday's scenes unlikely to have any significant impact on case numbers in all honesty.

The anger though is rightfully with the awful handling of the entire situation and the message that it sends out. In a scenario where no-one has been allowed to do much of anything in the past 12 months, it reeks of at best cowardice and at worst collusion for the police to suddenly decide off their own back that they can't handle dispersing of a crowd that was in reality a couple of thousand people that at first, was filtering gradually into an area.

There is also a distinct lack of acceptance that breaking them up when they were a few dozen in number would have firstly sent those gathering away home and secondly, dissuaded others who saw and heard the scenes going on and decided to join the growing crowd. 

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18 minutes ago, Stormzy said:

😂

You have to wonder what Leitch, Yousaf etc thought they would gain by making obviously untrue statements. Did they think no one would ask UEFA if they gave a shit?

Talking shit to people you have spent 11 months talking to like children, it would appear, becomes a habit.

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Just now, MP_MFC said:

Hawd on. Did I catch Swinney right there? GG&C have been fudging their hospital figures this entire time?

Thats what it sounded like.  They hadn't been including positive tests from lighthouse labs.  Only tests from their own testing programme.

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Leitch was absolutely fine letting the OF game go ahead with a capacity crowd only a year ago. Some u-turn he's been on. 

Leitch and Yousaf could quite have easily just condemned the behaviour without resorting to made-up catastrophism. But they chose not to went all in regardless. 

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Just now, MP_MFC said:

Hawd on. Did I catch Swinney right there? GG&C have been fudging their hospital figures this entire time?

It's absolutely incredible how many times over the last 11 months the methods for counting have changed.

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4 minutes ago, djchapsticks said:

It was always unlikely to affect UEFA's stance.

As are yesterday's scenes unlikely to have any significant impact on case numbers in all honesty.

The anger though is rightfully with the awful handling of the entire situation and the message that it sends out. In a scenario where no-one has been allowed to do much of anything in the past 12 months, it reeks of at best cowardice and at worst collusion for the police to suddenly decide off their own back that they can't handle dispersing of a crowd that was in reality a couple of thousand people that at first, was filtering gradually into an area.

There is also a distinct lack of acceptance that breaking them up when they were a few dozen in number would have firstly sent those gathering away home and secondly, dissuaded others who saw and heard the scenes going on and decided to join the growing crowd. 

Correct. The police's gormless insistence that 'but... we couldnae give fines to them all or we'd be still doing it now!' is a ridiculous case of missing the point. They should be breaking up the crowd first and then rounding up as many as they can for punishment later. You'd think that they were taking a cut from every fine by their insistence on patrolling park benches and train stations in case some wifey doesn't have an essential purpose for being there. 

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15 hours ago, No_Problemo said:

The cases are flying down.

They are falling at a decent rate again, but last week there were concerns raised that it was slowing.

You can see it in the graphs from the excellent Traveling Tabby 

 

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I’m not watching the briefing - is there a reason for the increase in hospital admissions?
GG&C have decided to report all cases, as opposed to just the ones they wanted to.

Unbelievable.
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6 minutes ago, djchapsticks said:

It was always unlikely to affect UEFA's stance.

As are yesterday's scenes unlikely to have any significant impact on case numbers in all honesty.

The anger though is rightfully with the awful handling of the entire situation and the message that it sends out. In a scenario where no-one has been allowed to do much of anything in the past 12 months, it reeks of at best cowardice and at worst collusion for the police to suddenly decide off their own back that they can't handle dispersing of a crowd that was in reality a couple of thousand people that at first, was filtering gradually into an area.

There is also a distinct lack of acceptance that breaking them up when they were a few dozen in number would have firstly sent those gathering away home and secondly, dissuaded others who saw and heard the scenes going on and decided to join the growing crowd. 

At which point, these people would have gone indoors, which would likely result in a worse clinical outcome than what actually happened.

No matter who won the title this year - Rangers, Celtic, Aberdeen, St Mirren, whoever - people were always going to congregate to celebrate it. If the Government didn't recognise that and prepare for it (and Rangers statement today makes it pretty clear that they pointed out to the SNP that this was inevitable), then that's on them. A cynic might suggest that they did foresee this and realised that it would be far better to keep people outdoors.

Really think that football fans need to be very careful about jumping into the same bed as people who think the Spanish police have the right approach to this. There will be other clubs who do the same thing, on a smaller scale, over the next few months.

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It's absolutely incredible how many times over the last 11 months the methods for counting have changed.
Why GG&C have been allowed to vary from the standard way of reporting is beyond me.
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