die hard doonhamer Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 9 minutes ago, Michael W said: Covid isn't a parasitic infection, though. The post RE Fox was a flippant one, but a point of view that interests me nonetheless. Doesn't think he needs a vaccine as he's got an immune system, a point I understand even though I'd make a different choice in his position. But at the same time, he's treating his case of covid with a drug that isn't designed to treat a respiratory virus. The immune system means he doesn't need a vaccine, but somehow isn't good enough to fight the virus without support from other drugs, which he'll willingly take. It's a perspective I find baffling, to be honest. Undermines the 'I have an immune system' argument. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallo_Madrid Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 On 29/01/2022 at 09:32, Monkey Tennis said: A question for the recently Covid riddled: Have you been able to end isolation early by getting negative LFTs after 5 or 6 days? I've had to do the full 10 days because results have remained positive. Anecdotally, that sounds fairly typical. It's a bit of a scunner, as I'd kind of assumed I'd get to escape a bit early. Yeah, My wife and daughter have both been positive and lateral flows didn't show up until probably day 5, strongly at that. Both are going to need the full 10 days by the looks of it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Covid isn't a parasitic infection, though. The post RE Fox was a flippant one, but a point of view that interests me nonetheless. Doesn't think he needs a vaccine as he's got an immune system, a point I understand even though I'd make a different choice in his position. But at the same time, he's treating his case of covid with a drug that isn't designed to treat a respiratory virus. The immune system means he doesn't need a vaccine, but somehow isn't good enough to fight the virus without support from other drugs, which he'll willingly take. It's a perspective I find baffling, to be honest. Undermines the 'I have an immune system' argument. Obviously whooshed you, but I was angling at Fox being a parasite. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 19 hours ago, oaksoft said: Taking pleasure in someone catching covid eh? How classy. On Fox, this guy has been desperate to catch Covid for ages, just to prove that he can brush it off with his immune system and no vaccine. It helps him spread his propaganda and misinformation. He's boasting about his immune system because, unlike most who have become seriously ill or died, he is not old or has serious underlying health issues. He's boasting about taking ivermectin on the off chance he is in fact a horse with worms. He's like a kid on Christmas morning now he has Covid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, peasy23 said: 13 minutes ago, Michael W said: Covid isn't a parasitic infection, though. The post RE Fox was a flippant one, but a point of view that interests me nonetheless. Doesn't think he needs a vaccine as he's got an immune system, a point I understand even though I'd make a different choice in his position. But at the same time, he's treating his case of covid with a drug that isn't designed to treat a respiratory virus. The immune system means he doesn't need a vaccine, but somehow isn't good enough to fight the virus without support from other drugs, which he'll willingly take. It's a perspective I find baffling, to be honest. Undermines the 'I have an immune system' argument. Obviously whooshed you, but I was angling at Fox being a parasite. Straight over my head, fair play! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 22 minutes ago, scottsdad said: no vaccine He's vaccinated though 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 36 minutes ago, scottsdad said: He's boasting about taking ivermectin on the off chance he is in fact a horse with worms. It's impressive how many people actually believe that Ivermectin isn't for human consumption. A good example of how state and corporate propaganda functions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 1 hour ago, oaksoft said: Honestly, I think we might be coming towards the end of the thread. Covid appears to be dying away, restrictions are slowly being removed, albeit too slowly, and there's so little to talk about that laughing at an anti-vaxxer catching covid constitutes entertainment these days. Would broadly agree. I returned to the thread in the face of the omicron meltdown but it’s fairly clear they’ve realised they shat it prematurely and we’re back in the right path. Albeit far too slowly and far too hindered by politics and ego. No point continually stomping feet over it. Ill be back when the ‘let’s just keep masks forever’ roadmap comes out 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 58 minutes ago, Michael W said: Covid isn't a parasitic infection, though. The post RE Fox was a flippant one, but a point of view that interests me nonetheless. Doesn't think he needs a vaccine as he's got an immune system, a point I understand even though I'd make a different choice in his position. But at the same time, he's treating his case of covid with a drug that isn't designed to treat a respiratory virus. The immune system means he doesn't need a vaccine, but somehow isn't good enough to fight the virus without support from other drugs, which he'll willingly take. It's a perspective I find baffling, to be honest. Undermines the 'I have an immune system' argument. This is Peter McCullough's stance. He is the doctor who's interview led to the corporate meltdown over Joe Rogan. No one seems to have provided a comprehensive rebuttal to him. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 4 minutes ago, Detournement said: This is Peter McCullough's stance. He is the doctor who's interview led to the corporate meltdown over Joe Rogan. No one seems to have provided a comprehensive rebuttal to him. I made a joke about ivermectin, but let me clarify. It is entirely possible that this drug has an unexpected side effect that helps Covid infections. Viagra started out as heart medication until the clinical trial revealed an unexpected (and profitable) side effect. I'll wait for the results of a proper, full scale clinical trial on the use of this drug on Covid patients before deciding if this is a goer or not. The odd study here and there proves nothing, 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 19 minutes ago, scottsdad said: I made a joke about ivermectin, but let me clarify. It is entirely possible that this drug has an unexpected side effect that helps Covid infections. Viagra started out as heart medication until the clinical trial revealed an unexpected (and profitable) side effect. I'll wait for the results of a proper, full scale clinical trial on the use of this drug on Covid patients before deciding if this is a goer or not. The odd study here and there proves nothing, McCullough explained on Rogan that there had been one trial done on Ivermectin in the UK but it was given to hospital patients 14 days + after infection so it obviously wasn't effective. The 'failure' of that study was used a reason to close the debate. He believes this was intentional. One of the more interesting things on the podcast was explaining Trump's drink bleach comment. In Bangladesh they have been successful in reducing transmission using the pink disinfectant you get at the dentist to disinfect their mouths and noses. Much like the horse paste meme there was obviously a coordinated smear campaign to discredit that practice in the West. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effeffsee_the2nd Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 This is Peter McCullough's stance. He is the doctor who's interview led to the corporate meltdown over Joe Rogan. No one seems to have provided a comprehensive rebuttal to him. Yer some laddy so ye are 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 (edited) There is a massive amount of evidence that covid vaccines reduce the chances of serious illness by around 80%. There is a dispute about whether Ivermectin does anything at all. The really odd thing is that anyone should chose one or the other based on what side they take on the Twitter Culture Wars. Edited January 31, 2022 by welshbairn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 3 minutes ago, welshbairn said: There is a massive amount of evidence that covid vaccines reduce the chances of serious illness by around 80%. There is a dispute about whether Ivermectin does anything. The really odd thing is that anyone should chose one or the other based on what side they take on the Twitter Culture Wars. 21 minutes ago, effeffsee_the2nd said: Yer some laddy so ye are Despite the vaccine people are still dying and becoming seriously ill with Covid yet we have no early treatment protocol* in the UK and the virus is basically allowed a 14 day head start before any medical intervention is undertaken. To me that is a strange state of affairs. Omicron has offered a reprieve this winter but more deadly variants are possible. *The two drugs Sweeperdee mentioned are available only to high risk candidates in trials limited to 10,000 patients which began in December 21. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardy Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 McCullough explained on Rogan that there had been one trial done on Ivermectin in the UK but it was given to hospital patients 14 days + after infection so it obviously wasn't effective. The 'failure' of that study was used a reason to close the debate. He believes this was intentional. One of the more interesting things on the podcast was explaining Trump's drink bleach comment. In Bangladesh they have been successful in reducing transmission using the pink disinfectant you get at the dentist to disinfect their mouths and noses. Much like the horse paste meme there was obviously a coordinated smear campaign to discredit that practice in the West. Fvcking hell, it's nearly 2 years since people at a Melbourne Uni (maybe Monash) found a pleotropic effect of ivermectin. However this was in-vitro.It has become one of the most fraudulently studied medicines of the pandemic (maybe even all time).If this drug was really as good as it's purported to be, then why such shithouse research.Oh and Laurence Fox has been vaccinated, he's a grifting cvnt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 No negative LFT no access to the office for those on a hybrid model we have been told this morning. Compulsory test in the 24hrs before you are scheduled to be in. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 14 minutes ago, Detournement said: Despite the vaccine people are still dying and becoming seriously ill with Covid yet we have no early treatment protocol* in the UK and the virus is basically allowed a 14 day head start before any medical intervention is undertaken. To me that is a strange state of affairs. Omicron has offered a reprieve this winter but more deadly variants are possible. *The two drugs Sweeperdee mentioned are available only to high risk candidates in trials limited to 10,000 patients which began in December 21. People still become seriously ill and die after taking Invermectin. Why are you in favour of it and not the vaccine? It seems like a political position you've taken rather than a medical one. Even Trump has come round to approving the vaccine now despite the boos of his supporters. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honest_Man#1 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 34 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said: No negative LFT no access to the office for those on a hybrid model we have been told this morning. Compulsory test in the 24hrs before you are scheduled to be in. Assume this’ll be ditched when the government remove free LFTs. Can’t see companies paying for tests and they can’t legally ask you to pay your own money to test for coming in, unless they make everyone entirely able to work from home. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 (edited) 26 minutes ago, welshbairn said: People still become seriously ill and die after taking Invermectin. Why are you in favour of it and not the vaccine? It seems like a political position you've taken rather than a medical one. Even Trump has come round to approving the vaccine now despite the boos of his supporters. I don't think it's either/or with the vaccine or Ivermectin. People with risk factors who develop symptoms should have access to early treatments. People in Asia, Latin America and Africa have access to early treatments, governments in the American Empire have ensured that people here don't. It shouldn't be political but it clearly is. It's also worth remembering that rich people in the west do get early treatment with new drugs that aren't available to the rest of us. Edited January 31, 2022 by Detournement -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 I'll have £5 e/w on Detournement, 3.30 Hamilton. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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