Coronavirus and the Scottish Championship

[GiGi]

4 minutes ago, Flash said:

I think it is in Article 62 and in the definition of a Qualified Resolution on page 9. But that assumes there needs to be an expansion of the league numbers.

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Qualified Resolution means, in relation to those Reserved Matters referred to in Article 62, a resolution of the Company at a General Meeting, of which notice has been duly given in accordance with these Articles, and which requires the support of not less than 90% of the Members owning and operating Clubs entitled for the time being to participate inthe Premiership; 75% of the Members owning and operating Clubs entitled for the time being to participate inthe Premiership and the Championship; and 75% of the Members owning and operating Clubs entitled for the time being to participate inthe Premiership, the Championship, League One and League Two, whether all the Members of the Company actually attend and vote or not, to be passed;

So that's what would be needed for 14-10-10-10. Can't see it.

[D'Jaffo]

Would you be in the same mindset if Ayr were bottom?

Of course not but Ayr aren’t bottom and those 3 clubs are.

It’s hypocrisy at its finest I know.

[johnnydun]

6 minutes ago, D'Jaffo said:

Of course not but Ayr aren’t bottom and those 3 clubs are.

It’s hypocrisy at its finest I know.

At least you're honest.

[eez-eh]

1 minute ago, RandomGuy. said:

Almost word for word what people said after McInnes left.

We finished 3rd the next season, lost the next manager and got told we were doomed.

Then went and won the Scottish Cup.

St Johnstone are a comfortable mid-table top flight side, 7 top half finishes in the past decade if/when the top flight is called by average points.

Accept your reality. 

Are you so desperate to make that point over and over that you’re quoting posts that have f**k all to do with it?

[SandyCromarty]

14 hours ago, Dee Man said:

This is what can happen if you drink cheap cider. 

[SandyCromarty]

1 hour ago, Granny Danger said:

As other have pointed out, reconstruction requires 11 of the 12 Premiership clubs to support it.  I cannot see that happening.

Why?

[RandomGuy.]

5 minutes ago, eez-eh said:

Are you so desperate to make that point over and over that you’re quoting posts that have f**k all to do with it?

I've no idea how I ended up quoting you

[Granny Danger]

17 minutes ago, SandyCromarty said:

Why?

Because one season without Hearts crowds/income is better than further multiple seasons with two more teams who hardly generate more crowds/income.

[Fifespud]

There are 18 teams averaging over 2000 fans a game in Scotland. There are 13 teams averaging over 4000 a game with Falkirk averaging a creditable 3700 at the top of league 1. These 18 clubs or so are operating on a different model to the rest, if one of those clubs disappears a large chunk of those fans will disappear. The revenue that would be lost in such an event would never be recouped and would result in ever decreasing circles for the rest. I’d argue the structure of our game must be designed to support these clubs.

[RandomGuy.]

29 minutes ago, SandyCromarty said:

Why?

Temporary reconstruction has zero chance.

Youd be asking clubs to vote to reduce their prospective income, while also trebling their chance of relegation the season it's going to revert back to 12.

Who the f**k is actually voting for that apart from Hearts in the top flight?

Edited April 16, 2020 by RandomGuy.

[invergowrie arab]

Get 3 x 10 lower leagues in the bin too.

Exciting for arseholes in the media who can wax lyrical about what a competitive league it is and terrible for the fans who have to watch negative dogshit football.

 

[AlwaysThistle]

[johnnydun]

3 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said:

Youd be asking clubs to vote to reduce their prospective income, while also trebling their chance of relegation

You would only have to add money for the 2 bottom places of League 2.

Are you multiplying your chances of relegation by 3 or adding more teams to reduce the possibly of other teams ending up in the relegation spots?

[RandomGuy.]

3 minutes ago, johnnydun said:

You would only have to add money for the 2 bottom places of League 2.

Are you multiplying your chances of relegation by 3 or adding more teams to reduce the possibly of other teams ending up in the relegation spots?

You think Hamilton see 3 automatic relegation spots, and potentially Hearts, Dundee United, Dundee and ICT all being added to the league, and think their chances of relegation are greatly reduced?

Edited April 16, 2020 by RandomGuy.

[DiegoDiego]

As much as I want Thistle to avoid the seaside leagues I think I'd rather face diddies like Falkirk (and legitimately grumble about it) than see Scottish football mangled by a hastily Budged reconstruction.

[SandyCromarty]

13 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said:

Temporary reconstruction has zero chance.

Youd be asking clubs to vote to reduce their prospective income, while also trebling their chance of relegation the season it's going to revert back to 12.

Who the f**k is actually voting for that apart from Hearts in the top flight?

A bold prediction, you forget that Dundee's yes vote was based on a league reconstruction proviso, that was obviously tabled to PL clubs and they agreed and accepted, if they had said no then I'm sure Dundee would have stood by their original No vote.

It was the one bullet in a revolving chamber.

[RandomGuy.]

Just now, SandyCromarty said:

A bold prediction, you forget that Dundee's yes vote was based on a league reconstruction proviso, that was obviously tabled to PL clubs and they agreed and accepted, if they had said no then I'm sure Dundee would have stood by their original No vote.

It was the one bullet in a revolving chamber.

Any temporary reconstruction requires a top flight season with multiple automatic relegation spots, instead of just one, dependent on how much you expand.

You need 11 top flight clubs to back that.

[DiegoDiego]

Any temporary reconstruction requires a top flight season with multiple automatic relegation spots, instead of just one, dependent on how much you expand.
You need 11 top flight clubs to back that.

You're also going to require a fair chunk of League 2 teams, dregs like Stirling and Brechin, to outperform Kelty and Brora or get papped out of the national leagues, possibly for good.

Reconstruction is only needed at the bottom but I can't see them going for it.

[rb123!]

Why don't we do a one season 42 team jumbo sized super league for the laughs.

No promotions or relegation, everyone's a winner.

Edited April 16, 2020 by rb123!

[jagfox]

34 minutes ago, Fifespud said:

There are 18 teams averaging over 2000 fans a game in Scotland. There are 13 teams averaging over 4000 a game with Falkirk averaging a creditable 3700 at the top of league 1. These 18 clubs or so are operating on a different model to the rest, if one of those clubs disappears a large chunk of those fans will disappear. The revenue that would be lost in such an event would never be recouped and would result in ever decreasing circles for the rest. I’d argue the structure of our game must be designed to support these clubs.

I agree. The league also needs to bring in some level of financial fair play. The default champions are paying out more in wages than the club brought in through commercial, match day and broadcasting income.  This decision has saved their bacon for the time being at least. That strategy cant be sustainable for them or any other club going forward?

The issue now is the lack of match day income for all lower clubs. We've effectively had 25% of match day revenue removed with nothing to fill that gap.

It also looks like the SPFL won't be changing the Challenge Cup or League Cup which is understandable as they need every penny.