NotThePars Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 This countries obsession with all things USA never ceases to amaze me.Racist police murders and brutality in South America, Africa, Asia - which happen on a daily basis - doesn’t make the news and there’s no outrage.Police brutality in USA and it’s all over the British news and everyone here is up in arms. Why? Is it more tragic if it happens in America than these other foreign places? I guess it’s more impressive to not care about any of it like you do? Any time Barack Obama opens his mouth, there should be people reminding him of the time he went to a town being poisoned by its own water supply and did nothing but crack wise about it for the press.Sir are you aware that there’s a cheeto in the White House? Focus your ire at that. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 Was it a surprise that we did?I was thinking that just after I posted, bit hypocritical whilst living in country that elected big Bojo. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The OP Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 4 minutes ago, Mr. Alli said: I seen there was also a lot of Kriss Donald tweets. As Lex (I think) pointed out, it's strange how it's only when it happens in America anybody suddenly gives a shit. Even though it’s entirely specious you can see why morons bring him into Stephen Lawrence discussions, but in this context it just boggles the mind. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, NotThePars said: Sir are you aware that there’s a cheeto in the White House? Focus your ire at that. Trump wasn't President when the residents of Flint had their water supply replaced with poison. I've no doubt he'd have made light of it too, if he could even be arsed turning up at all, but all you can say about his involvement on this issue is that he hasn't been any better than Obama, who was a smug indifferent shitehouse. Edit: also, nobody gives a shit about my ire. Edited June 2, 2020 by BigFatTabbyDave -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 The sheriff dept and police dept are two different entities, the police dept chief is an appointee and the sheriff from the social media posts is directly elected. Although they share a geographic area there somehow seems to be differences, with PD’s and SD’s serving incorporated and non incorporated areas of counties and municipalities. This means for small areas of states and counties you can have very large amounts of different police forces, that in turn means different training (although many go to the same academies), priorities and operational practices. This is why you have people like Arpaio etc springing up, playing to the voter dynamics in their counties. For me the sheer volume of police agencies in the states is dangerous (in Orange County florida I can think of about 9 law enforcement agencies which operate solely within the county alone not counting state and federal agencies), the smallest level should be at county level but even then if the actual state (not THE state but like the constituent state ie New York, Florida, California) took overall primacy and unified police departments and liased with federal agencies i think you’d see a much better overall service in the US. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 A long thread, but worth a read as the police in Minneapolis have effectively downed tools. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackie The Staggie Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 I mean come on....... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torpar Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Carl Cort's Hamstring said: Don't know about the series? It was famous/infamous recently for having poisonous drinking water. There is an excellent series on Netflix called Flint Town following the struggling police department of Flint 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A.F.C Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 I mean come on.......TBF they need to protect themselves and cuffing them isn't a terrible idea until they can be sure.Would you take someone's word for it in a country where most people have guns? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Mr. Alli said: You regularly belittle both schemes and folk in it. You have been pulled up numerous times by a plethora of posters and in fact, you're often referred to as 'the failed councillor' on the forum, in part due to your choice of words about those you are now claiming to have tried oh so very hard to help to no avail. If you want to now deny you've ever done it because you're suddenly trying to push a hard working, caring persona then you bash on. The majority of the board have seen your tirades over the years. So not a single post? Fair enough, I’ll leave it there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 Anyone else think The Minnesota Riots would be a good name for their baseball team? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackie The Staggie Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, D.A.F.C said: TBF they need to protect themselves and cuffing them isn't a terrible idea until they can be sure. Would you take someone's word for it in a country where most people have guns? The first lot of cops managed to get the story pretty quick and rushed after the looters they seemed to have no trouble taking someones word. Also you have a validated member of the press telling them that those guys were innocent. It was only when the Call of Duty wannabe cop came in with gun raised did they handcuff the owners. It's little wonder there's little trust between the black community and the police, even when these guys needed help they still got tied up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 11 minutes ago, Mackie The Staggie said: I mean come on....... Control and contain the situation, a full blown riot, a lot of confusion.... not helped by the screeching hysterical journalist. I'm guessing that they were released a few minutes later once everything checked out? Going by the size and shape of a few of those officers, I'm guessing a few of them are usually desk bound. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A.F.C Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 The first lot of cops managed to get the story pretty quick and rushed after the looters they seemed to have no trouble taking someones word. Also you have a validated member of the press telling them that those guys were innocent. It was only when the Call of Duty wannabe cop came in with gun raised did they handcuff the owners. It's little wonder there's little trust between the black community and the police, even when these guys needed help they still got tied up.I'm not an expert in police protocol, it does look dodgy but it might be legit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 This countries obsession with all things USA never ceases to amaze me.Racist police murders and brutality in South America, Africa, Asia - which happen on a daily basis - doesn’t make the news and there’s no outrage.Police brutality in USA and it’s all over the British news and everyone here is up in arms. Why? Is it more tragic if it happens in America than these other foreign places? I think a large part is cultural. In this country we’ve all had wide exposure to African American culture. We can sympathise and empathise with those people and the institutionalised racism they suffer more because we’ve seen it, not only the the news, but in films and on TV dramas and documentaries, we’ve heard it in the lyrics of music by African American artists.While even something like the genocide in Myanmar against the Rohingya people has been covered quite extensively we haven’t seen the same social media campaigns, the same amount of discussion and column inches. Could you name a single Rohingya person? I can’t. It’s distant, foreign, obscure. Most people here can’t relate to small subsistence farmers forced off their land in a country most people in this country could event point to on a map.Admittedly the ‘expect better from a liberalised western democracy’ line is also compelling. Not many on here will have heard of the Hargeisa Holocaust, I hadn’t until a few days ago, but are we surprised thousands were slaughtered because the had the misfortune to belong to the wrong clan in a country like Somalia? Probably not.That said I’m not in any way irritated that this issue has received the attention it has, like you seem to be, it isn’t a competition about which incidents of oppression should receive or not receive recognition. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 29 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: So not a single post? Fair enough, I’ll leave it there. It's probably best you did. You seem intent on derailing a thread because your post was awarded a red dot. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 It's probably best you did. You seem intent on derailing a thread because your post was awarded a red dot. Is it an "award" though? Not sure what the correct term would be. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eez-eh Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 31 minutes ago, bennett said: Control and contain the situation, a full blown riot, a lot of confusion.... not helped by the screeching hysterical journalist. I'm guessing that they were released a few minutes later once everything checked out? Going by the size and shape of a few of those officers, I'm guessing a few of them are usually desk bound. Oh, well that makes it all okay then. If only you were doing the White House briefings this would all have calmed down in a jiffy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 Decent enough wee speech from Joe Biden at the moment. He might not be the greatest of options but he's objectively miles ahead of that fucking idiot Trump. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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