Ginaro Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 25 minutes ago, Spyro said: Someone will probably know the answer, but why does the Borders line head out east then does a shunt after Brunstane? Would it not be easier to send it out west, round Tynecastle and along the south Edinburgh route? Would mean missing out Brunstane but would solve the capacity issue on the East line. I'm guessing it's just as busy heading out west but the lines are all there Guess you've got yourself a bit confused, there is no shunt after Brunstane, the line goes straight to Newcraighall as seen here: https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2715362#map=15/55.9407/-3.1013 Reasons for not going round the South Suburban line - slower line speeds, platform capacity on the west of Waverley compared to the east, and it wouldn't serve Brunstane (see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borders_Railway#Edinburgh_Crossrail) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spyro Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 2 minutes ago, Ginaro said: Guess you've got yourself a bit confused, there is no shunt after Brunstane, the line goes straight to Newcraighall as seen here: https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2715362#map=15/55.9407/-3.1013 Reasons for not going round the South Suburban line - slower line speeds, platform capacity on the west of Waverley compared to the east, and it wouldn't serve Brunstane (see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borders_Railway#Edinburgh_Crossrail) Fair enough, Google maps routing making me look like a mug here 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spyro Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 25 minutes ago, Ginaro said: (see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borders_Railway#Edinburgh_Crossrail) That's actually a really interesting read, been living away for so long I completely missed a lot of this 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginaro Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 11 hours ago, Spyro said: That's actually a really interesting read, been living away for so long I completely missed a lot of this So is the next section on the business case - which said a benefit to cost of 1.01 to 1 and then years later 0.5:1, pretty shocking when you realise just how much they underestimated usage of the line. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 Who saw this coming... Further delays, another dismissal: Shipyard manager removed as new CalMac ferry delay expected - BBC News 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 I found DB not too bad as the trains that were 2 hours late arrived about the same time as the ones I was booked on and the conductors were fine with it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 On 21/06/2024 at 15:02, HibeeJibee said: Who saw this coming... Further delays, another dismissal: Shipyard manager removed as new CalMac ferry delay expected - BBC News Scrap the f**king dual fuel LNG shite, use the saved space for some modular conventional fuel tanks, and the rest for more carrying capacity. Done. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 (edited) On 22/06/2024 at 21:57, TxRover said: Scrap the f**king dual fuel LNG shite, use the saved space for some modular conventional fuel tanks, and the rest for more carrying capacity. Done. Bump. Just another £14m this month... albeit for the yard not specifically the still awaited ferries: Troubled Fergusons shipyard given £14m - but no ferry contract - BBC News Meanwhile they're bidding for CalMac's next set - it's special electric ferries this time - and sound likely to be favoured: Ferguson Marine to bid for small ferries contract - BBC News Btw: The yard's interim chief executive officer John Petticrew said it would have to bid against "unfair" foreign competition. Speaking after a meeting with deputy first minister Kate Forbes, Mr Petticrew said he would be "disappointed" if the yard lost out. When asked why he thought the competition was unfair, he said: “Because the countries we’re bidding against, we all know that their governments are putting money into those shipyards." Hilarious. Edited July 18 by HibeeJibee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 3 hours ago, HibeeJibee said: Bump. Just another £14m this month... albeit for the yard not specifically the still awaited ferries: Troubled Fergusons shipyard given £14m - but no ferry contract - BBC News Meanwhile they're bidding for CalMac's next set - it's special electric ferries this time - and sound likely to be favoured: Ferguson Marine to bid for small ferries contract - BBC News Btw: The yard's interim chief executive officer John Petticrew said it would have to bid against "unfair" foreign competition. Speaking after a meeting with deputy first minister Kate Forbes, Mr Petticrew said he would be "disappointed" if the yard lost out. When asked why he thought the competition was unfair, he said: “Because the countries we’re bidding against, we all know that their governments are putting money into those shipyards." Hilarious. Just spitballing Ferguson Marine’s entry to the small ferry competition: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 On 13/06/2024 at 10:17, Sherrif John Bunnell said: The exact same thing is happening in Inverness right now with businesses outraged that most cars are going to be barred from Academy Street when it is redeveloped, despite there currently being no parking on that street and two large multistorey car parks being less than 5 mins walk away. For anyone unfamiliar with Academy Street, it is currently a gridlocked dump, with some of the highest exhaust emission readings in Scotland. Facebook maws are constantly on about the same kind of thing in Perth. I recently pointed out to one of them - who was moaning that they never go into town because they can't get parked directly outside the St John's Shopping Centre - that there is a multi-storey within two minutes walk of the front door of the place, street parking for up to an hour (first 15 mins free) within 30 seconds of it, two massive - and cheap - surface car parks within five minutes walk and a massive retail park with three hours free parking less than 10 minutes walk away at the end of the High Street. Her response? "IT'S JUST MY OPINION DOESN'T MEAN I'M WRONG I'M ALLOWED AN OPINION". Yes, but it's fucking moronic. As far as trains go, my first order of business would be to reinstate a direct line from Perth to the Forth Bridge via Kinross and Dunfermline, thus cutting journey times north from Edinburgh massively (Perth to Edinburgh is 1:30 on Scotrail, it shouldn't be more than 45 minutes) and connecting two cities less than 30 miles apart which are currently impossible to get between by train in any sensible way. Net result would probably be an enormous expansion in the size of Kinross if it had fast and regular rail access to Perth/Dunfermline/Edinburgh. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Sturgeon must condemn. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 (edited) 3 hours ago, Jamie_B said: As far as trains go, my first order of business would be to reinstate a direct line from Perth to the Forth Bridge via Kinross and Dunfermline, thus cutting journey times north from Edinburgh massively (Perth to Edinburgh is 1:30 on Scotrail, it shouldn't be more than 45 minutes) and connecting two cities less than 30 miles apart which are currently impossible to get between by train in any sensible way. Net result would probably be an enormous expansion in the size of Kinross if it had fast and regular rail access to Perth/Dunfermline/Edinburgh. I'm seeing only one city discussed in your plan. Edited July 19 by vikingTON 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Patterson Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Probably doesn't fit here, but NIMBYs stopping anything positive happening in the country is ridiculous. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c250gwwnn5jo 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 1 hour ago, virginton said: I'm seeing only one city discussed in your plan. I may being wooshed here but surely there are three - Perth, Dunfermline and Edinburgh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 (edited) 9 minutes ago, strichener said: I may being whooshed here but surely there are three - Perth, Dunfermline and Edinburgh. He means that Perth and Dunfermline aren't "proper" cities He might not be completely correct, but he's not entirely wrong either Edited July 19 by topcat(The most tip top) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 2 hours ago, topcat(The most tip top) said: He means that Perth and Dunfermline aren't "proper" cities He might not be completely correct, but he's not entirely wrong either I'm not sure what constitutes a "proper" city. In the UK it is a status conferred by the monarch so on this respect they are cities. It could be worse and follow the American example where you can have a 5 person city. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 1 hour ago, strichener said: I'm not sure what constitutes a "proper" city. In the UK it is a status conferred by the monarch so on this respect they are cities. It could be worse and follow the American example where you can have a 5 person city. Personally I reckon that "proper" cities have got City Councils but "honourary" cities don't Back when a new royal charter was going to be handed out there was a thread all about it which included crackers like this On 30/12/2021 at 11:44, virginton said: FTFY As Greenock also has an outdoor swimming pool situated in stunning, fjord-like surroundings and more train stations than any settlement outside of Glasgow/Edinburgh, it should clearly be promoted to third city status ahead of pointless dumps like 'Aberdeen'. So I wouldn't worry too much about @virginton being contrarian 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Tattiescone Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 1 hour ago, strichener said: It could be worse and follow the American example where you can have a 5 person city. Dunfermline's a 5 family city 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldbitterandgrumpy Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 43 minutes ago, topcat(The most tip top) said: Personally I reckon that "proper" cities have got City Councils but "honourary" cities don't Back when a new royal charter was going to be handed out there was a thread all about it which included crackers like this So I wouldn't worry too much about @virginton being contrarian He’s an angry man. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 This isn’t Scotland but tracks with a lot of the objections you see to even minor infrastructure in this country. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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