Florentine_Pogen Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 14 minutes ago, Duries Air Freshener said: I'm just glad they're doing something. They were in danger of losing my vote. I had OJ and porridge for breakfast...................... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 2 hours ago, Duries Air Freshener said: I'm just glad they're doing something. They were in danger of losing my vote. To Independent Green Voice or Britain First? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duries Air Freshener Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 2 hours ago, Florentine_Pogen said: I had OJ and porridge for breakfast...................... I recommend Weetos. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenneth840 Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 Robin McAlpine has some ideas that may help. https://robinmcalpine.org/someone-has-to-start-acting-like-they-have-responsibility-for-the-wellbeing-of-the-people-of-scotland/ Quote It is a sorry world we’ve built when, in 2022, the best I can come up with to stop social devastation is soup kitchens and electric blankets – but it is. If someone in Scotland has a better idea, let’s do that instead. I’d be delighted. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 41 minutes ago, Duries Air Freshener said: I recommend Weetos. Too much sugar in them for you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, Salt n Vinegar said: Great stuff this. I've just seen our Prime Minister proudly state on Sky news that the government are going to give financial help - "most of the money will go to the eight million most vulnerable households..." Why the f are there eight million vulnerable households in such a wealthy country? I wonder how many actual people that covers. Even if it averages at 2 per household, that's 16 million people, or around 23% of the population, which is fucking mental. Edit for fat fingers Edited August 26, 2022 by Mark Connolly 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenneth840 Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 Another article you may find interesting. Quote What follows may be controversial with some readers. But then, this newsletter exists to ask difficult questions. So, do feel free to disagree. The scene setting paper provided a recycled argument that could have been made at any point in the last 30 years or so of Scottish nationalism. I would have thought they might have opted for a real big ideas starting point to obfuscate the most obvious problem with the launch. The question of how to bring about a referendum at all. Before we get into the detail of this, let’s establish some things we know for sure about the SNP leadership: https://jonathonshafi.substack.com/p/something-doesnt-add-up 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 4 hours ago, Salt n Vinegar said: Why the f are there eight million vulnerable households in such a wealthy country? I’m going with this answer: successive Tory governments. Did I get it right? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt n Vinegar Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 28 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: I’m going with this answer: successive Tory governments. Did I get it right? You might not be a million miles away with that answer. I wonder what proportion of the Tory leadership electorate will worry about going without food when faced with their energy bills? Tory MPs will only give a damn when the owners of failed small businesses start kicking their metaphorical @rses from one end of the street to the other. Listen to the old/disabled and those "poor people"? Nah, not so much. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 8 hours ago, Granny Danger said: Energy costs in other European countries are not rising as fast as those in the U.K., I wonder why that is? I’ve had no indication that my electricity price is going up. Just as well. That stannah stairlift must use up the electric. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 5 minutes ago, Salt n Vinegar said: You might not be a million miles away with that answer. I wonder what proportion of the Tory leadership electorate will worry about going without food when faced with their energy bills? Tory MPs will only give a damn when the owners of failed small businesses start kicking their metaphorical @rses from one end of the street to the other. Listen to the old/disabled and those "poor people"? Nah, not so much. Let’s face it it’s not the Tory members that’s the main issue, it’s Tory voters. It’s the guy with the 95% mortgage and £20k in an ISA that thinks his interests are the same as Sunak’s or Mogg’s. It’s the auld wifie who will ignore the deteriorating NHS services and increasing crime rate so long as she thinks that the Tories will keep out people whose skin is a different colour to hers. Fortunately there are fewer of them in Scotland than rUK. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, Suspect Device said: Just as well. That stannah stairlift must use up the electric. Averaging 7-8 miles walking each day since we moved here, a combination of having the time and the weather. Best week so far has been 79 miles. No need for a stairlift. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 I’m going with this answer: successive Tory governments. Did I get it right?Some of those people keep voting for them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Mark Connolly said: I wonder how many actual people that covers. Even if it averages at 2 per household, that's 16 million people, or around 23% of the population, which is fucking mental. Edit for fat fingers There are 28 million households in the UK. So if you take that at an average then it would work out to be 19.2m people. Edited August 26, 2022 by strichener 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 6 minutes ago, strichener said: There are 28 million households in the UK. So if you take that at an average then it would work out to be 19.2m people. So 28% of the population are effectively classed as "vulnerable" by the Prime Minister. What a country 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 1 minute ago, Mark Connolly said: So 28% of the population are effectively classed as "vulnerable" by the Prime Minister. What a country Even more worrying in the context of affordability, this is undoubtedly an underestimate. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Kelly Isley III Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Granny Danger said: Let’s face it it’s not the Tory members that’s the main issue, it’s Tory voters. It’s the guy with the 95% mortgage and £20k in an ISA that thinks his interests are the same as Sunak’s or Mogg’s. It’s the auld wifie who will ignore the deteriorating NHS services and increasing crime rate so long as she thinks that the Tories will keep out people whose skin is a different colour to hers. Fortunately there are fewer of them in Scotland than rUK. And the ones in Braemar are going to be a damned sight colder than their brethren in Bognor. But cue Sturgeon and the SNP to blame. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 15 minutes ago, Mark Connolly said: So 28% of the population are effectively classed as "vulnerable" by the Prime Minister. What a country Yes, but that must mean 72% are doing alright, and the government's doing a good job for most. Typical of this forum to focus on the negatives! (match that up to the poster of your choice; there's a few) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clown Job Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 Middle earners, as well as low earners, are likely to need government help to pay their energy bills this winter, Chancellor Nadhim Zahawi has warned. The energy regulator hiked the price cap on household bills by 80% on Friday, meaning the average bill will rise to £3,549 a year from October. Speaking to the Daily Telegraph, Mr Zahawi said even those earning £45,000 a year may need support. He said the Treasury was exploring "all the options" to help households. He added that the country was in a "national economic emergency [that] could go on for 18 months, two years". Both Liz Truss and Rishi Sunak, one of whom will be announced as the next prime minister on 5 September, have pledged further support, though neither has given details. Environment Secretary George Eustice defended the wait for policy announcements from either candidate, saying it was right that whoever got the top job would "want to look at all of the options, properly costed" when they take office. "Both candidates have said they will do more - you don't have long to wait," Mr Eustice told BBC Radio Four's Today programme. "They've both made clear that this will be absolutely at the top of their in tray," he added. The government has already said that all households will get a £400 rebate on energy bills, with low income and vulnerable households receiving an additional £650. The rise in the energy price cap - which is the maximum amount that suppliers can charge households per unit of energy - means millions of households will see their annual bills rise from about £1,971 currently. Typical prepayment meter customers will also see their bills rise to £3,608. Charities and experts have warned that the rise will have a devastating impact on households and that lives will be at risk without government intervention. In his interview with the Telegraph, Mr Zahawi said he was also concerned about those who were not on benefits. "If you are a senior nurse or a senior teacher on £45,000 a year, you're having your energy bills go up by 80% and will probably rise even higher in the new year - it's really hard. "If you're a pensioner, it's really hard. So Universal Credit is a really effective way of targeting, but I'm looking at what else we can do to make sure we help those who really need the help." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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