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Richey Edwards

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What we are seeing in Britain right now – and what makes the nature and narratives of the mourning crowds so significant – is not just an expression of nationhood but an exercise in the making of nationhood. What makes this exercise so effective is that a loyalist and deferential version of Britishness is not simply imposed on us from the top. It draws on genuine and deep emotions among many millions of people – myself included. I was moved and saddened by the death of Elizabeth, not because I am a royalist but because it made me remember my own mother. And I felt for Harry, who arrived too late, just as I did, hearing she had died while on my way to see her.

However, these feelings were interpreted and exploited in a way that equated feeling sadness on thinking about Elizabeth’s death with joy at the unquestioned accession of Charles. Equally, crowd participation, whatever its actual motivation, has been reflected back to us as a collective endorsement of the monarch as head of state and of the Commonwealth (leaving no space in the nation for republicanism or anti-colonialism). All in all, it is a more modern and more subtle form of “taking the king’s shilling”, whereby what seems at the time like a rather modest act leads to lifelong impressment in the king’s service.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/sep/15/crowd-behaviour-london-mourning-queen?CMP=share_btn_tw

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39 minutes ago, throbber said:

Is the queen actually on the coffin on display ?

No, thats not how it works, the body is traditionally in the coffin and not lying on top.

Probably best that a decomposing body is sealed in the box.  It could also be a frightening site for a number of gawking mourners and not really something that young children should witness.

Any more questions?

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44 minutes ago, throbber said:

Is the queen actually on the coffin on display ?

Some think not based on uhmmmmm...

Not sure who are the bigger crazies, those queuing for a good few hours to see a coffin or those who think that coffin is empty.  It's a close one.

 

 

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Rumour has it the guards are there in case IT rises from the dead and they can stick a sabre through ITs skull before it can start feasting on the flesh of the servile masses passing by.

If they fail The Zombie Apocalypse has a Royal Warrant to make it more British and Brexit friendly., non of your foreign zombies for the UK.

 

Or I may be starting to lose it with the BBC Mourn-Fest pushing me over the edge. 

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14 minutes ago, philpy said:

Is anyone actually bothering to watch the funeral on Monday??

It will be one of these instances where you barely know of anyone who is actually watching it but it will be reported as the biggest TV audience in history. Smashing all previous records into oblivion.

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Republicanism being discussed on Jeremy Vine now. Awaiting the onslaught of the outraged as soon as this All Saints record finishes...

 

Edit - actually TBF only sensible views were aired. Now interviewing people in The Queue though...

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My mum is no longer eating or drinking. Probably living the dream for her as she’s existing solely on morphine but you can’t carry on like that for long. I could probably set up a coffin for her in my lock up and charge folk to visit if they want to skip the queues and get to see another old lady, boxed up, that they’ve never met.

 

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