The Pie and Bovril Dead Pool 2023

[Billy Jean King]

RIP

[Jimmy Baker]

Bobby Charlton Dead. "They think it's all over....it is now!"

[Venti]

26 minutes ago, Jimmy Baker said:

Bobby Charlton Dead. "They think it's all combover....it is now!"

FTFY

[pawpar]

Yes my hatrick. Oh and thoughts and prayers etc.

[Billy Jean King]

Geoff Hurst starting to look very isolated up top himself

[GordonD]

36 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said:

Geoff Hurst starting to look very isolated up top himself

Well, when he finally crosses the line it'll be more than the bloody ball did.

[Zen Archer (Raconteur)]

What's the betting Bobby Moore will steal the pennies from his eyes?

[dee_62]

2 hours ago, Bully Wee Villa said:

Booby Charlton, ticket tout and former footballer.

Another of the chart toppers from 1970. RIP…points! 

[Mark Connolly]

Looking forward to this week's round-up, both because I'll get points, and because deaths like Charlton usually produce my favourite part of the deadpool.

Spoiler

 

[pub car king]

Fucking devastated by this one. I benched him this year in place of Denis Law. 

[pawpar]

On 15/10/2023 at 11:52, Miguel Sanchez said:

Week 41 update

Have you all just got really bad at the game this year? I feel as if I'm a lot less busy than usual.

Well that statement hasn't came back to bite you in week 42.

[Miguel Sanchez]

Week 42 update

One death this week, footballer Bobby Charlton: Sir Bobby Charlton obituary | Bobby Charlton | The Guardian

I'm not going to post a quote for him because it's virtually impossible to summarise him in a few sentences. There are several articles on the Guardian's site about him, and I really recommend reading them. He retired twenty years before I was born so I can't really quantify the career he had outside of the statistics and honours, so adding context to that has been a welcome experience. 

In the time I've run the Dead Pool I'm not sure how many footballers there have been of Charlton's stature, in terms of what he meant to one club for so long. I've said before that as football fans we're all proud of players like Charlton in our clubs' history and hope for it in the present. Someone whose entire life is inseparable from the club and the community around it. That we're talking about someone able to do that for a club the size of Manchester United is a mark of how great he was. That so much of his success came after the 1958 Munich disaster is an even greater testament to his skill and character.

With that in mind I actually lied - I'm going to post Man United's announcement which sums up what I've said quite well: Manchester United legend Sir Bobby Charlton passes away aged 86 | Manchester United (manutd.com)

Quote

A graduate of our youth Academy, Sir Bobby played 758 games and scored 249 goals during 17 years as a Manchester United player, winning the European Cup, three league titles and the FA Cup. For England, he won 106 caps and scored 49 goals.

Following his retirement, he went on to serve the club with distinction as a director for 39 years. His unparalleled record of achievement, character and service will be forever etched in the history of Manchester United and English football; and his legacy will live on through the life-changing work of the Sir Bobby Charlton Foundation.

The club’s heartfelt sympathies are with his wife Lady Norma, his daughters and grandchildren, and all who loved him.

Considering the current state of elite level football, I don't think people like Bobby Charlton can or will exist anymore. As we lose people like him from his generation this becomes more pronounced, and given the general state of Man United in the past ~ten years it's a message that becomes more stark as time goes on.

While reading about him I did have a chuckle seeing the details of his final England appearance - World Cup quarter final against West Germany in 1970. They're up 2-1. Ramsey substitutes him to keep him fresh for the semi-final and they end up losing. At least some things in football remain constant.

Outside of his caps and goal record, he had an unremarkable international career.

Loads of you picked him. He died at 86 so he's worth 39 Base Points. A Vice-Captain bonus takes that to 59 points. Here's who gets what:

Vice-Captain: @DeeTillEhDeh, @HTG, @ICTJohnboy and @Karpaty Lviv

Base: @Arabdownunder, @ayrunitedfw, @BillyAnchor, @cdhafc1874, @choirbairn, @dee_62, @DG.Roma, @djchapsticks, @Duszek, @Enigma, @Frosty, @Fuctifano, @German Jag, @HI HAT, @HK Hibee, @Lex, @Ludo*1, @Mark Connolly, @microdave, @mozam76, @nessies long lost ghost, @pawpar, @Priti priti priti Patel, @qos_75, @San Starko, @senorsoupe, @sleazy, @Ziggy Sobotka, @Sweaty Morph, @The Hologram and @weirdcal.

After all of that, the standings look like this:

1. JustOneCornetto 405
2. psv_killie 376
3. Karpaty Lviv 300
4. Michael W 295
5. Arbroathlegend36-0, peasy23 288
7. chomp my root 271
8. cdhafc1874 268
9. Arabdownunder 267
10. Desp 264
11. Mark Connolly, weirdcal 263
13. qos_75 260
14. LoonsYouthTeam 245
15. The Naitch 240
16. ThomCat 239
17. The DA, Scorge 235
19. gkneil 234
20. Ziggy Sobotka 229
21. Ludo*1 227
22. buddiepaul 226
23. Billy Jean King 225
24. Bert Raccoon 222
25. amnarab 219
26. Ned Nederlander 209
27. microdave 205
28. HI HAT 201
29. Miguel Sanchez 199
30. Enigma 197
31. DG.Roma 193
32. Bully Wee Villa 192
33. TxRover 190
34. lolls 180
35. Donathan, Sweaty Morph 179
37. Frosty, HK Hibee 173
39. djchapsticks 172
40. Shotgun 170
41. Savage Henry 169
42. dee_62 167
43. D.V.T., throbber 166
45. Fuctifano 164
46. ParsJake 160
47. pub car king, The_Craig 157
49. Aim Here 155
50. HTG 154
51. paulathame 153
52. sophia 148
53. Indale Winton 142
54. mozam76 140
55. alta-pete 139
56. get_the_subbies_on 138
57. willie adie 134
58. ICTJohnboy 128
59. pawpar 126
60. thistledo 125
61. GermanJag 123
62. kilMARKnock 116
63. Christophe 114
64. doulikefish, tamthebam, The Master 111
67. Melanius Mullarkay 110
68. statts1976uk 107
69. Arch Stanton, DeeTillEhDeh 101
71. Lofarl 99
72. Oystercatcher, Priti priti priti Patel, weemac 97
75. atfccfc, Ray Patterson 96
77. sleazy 94
78. Moomintroll 93
79. dagane, The Hologram 87
81. sparky88 84
82. blackislekillie 74
83. Jimmy Baker, senorsoupe 71
85. choirbairn 70
86. superwell87 69
87. lichtgilphead 67
88. expatowner 60
89. BillyAnchor, Lex, superbigal 58
92. Dunning1874 55
93. Empty It 48
94. ayrunitedfw, Duszek, nessies long lost ghost, Oceanlineayr, Salvo Montalbano, San Starko, Shipa 39
101. mathematics 37
102. 10menwent2mow, mizfit, parxyz, scottsdad, Suspect Device 32
107.  Derry Alli, stanton 31
109. PWL 29
110. Everyone else 0

The spreadsheet has also been updated with these scores: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RxCIfczRUmrRrW79tUQ0vJ5KaHZpYENsTKmDqW4X3W4/edit?usp=sharing

[Arch Stanton]

17 minutes ago, Miguel Sanchez said:

Outside of his caps and goal record, he had an unremarkable international career.

LoL

[10menwent2mow]

f**k sake. This has put me outside the top 100. 

[mozam76]

Lovely words Miguel. 

I always remember a chapter in Frank Taylor’s book, The Day a Team Died. It was the chapter surrounding what happened at Wembley in 1968 after they’d beaten Benfica and in particular the celebrations in London afterwards. Whilst the rest of the team were celebrating, Charlton snuck off to bed without getting involved. He couldn’t bring himself to celebrate having lost his mates at Munich ten years previous. 

[Mark Connolly]

3 hours ago, Miguel Sanchez said:

Outside of his caps and goal record, he had an unremarkable international career.

[supermik]

Gangster Dave Courtney has killed himself.

[BillyAnchor]

2 hours ago, supermik said:

Gangster Dave Courtney has killed himself.

Big Charlton Athletic fan, hearing Charlton was gone he probably locked and stocked.

[thisal]

6 hours ago, 10menwent2mow said:

f**k sake. This has put me outside the top 100. 

Me too. 110th equal.

 

[superbigal]

Bishan Singh Bedi: Indian cricket legend dies aged 77