Salvo Montalbano Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 The problem with the Jones red card isn't so much the red card, it's the process. Had the referee given a red straight away, I don't think too many people would have had any complaints. The fact that the referee - barely 5 yards away - deemed it worth a yellow was fine IMO, albeit one that in the past would have been mentioned on MotD. When VAR was introduced they were keen to say that they weren't going to re-referee games, they'd look for factual errors, clear and obvious errors and mistaken identity. The fact that the first thing the referee saw when he went to the monitor was a still image - which always make any challenge look worse than it may have actually been - was always going to make him think he'd made a massive error of judgement but I don't think it was a huge mistake at all. Like I said earlier, if he'd given the red straight off the bat I think that would have been fine and VAR wouldn't have had enough evidence to overturn it, but at the same time having given the yellow initially I don't think there was enough to overrule his original decision. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buchan30 Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 9 hours ago, Salvo Montalbano said: See for that first one, the ref gave a yellow - was it an obvious error? Seeing it in real time, it looks like a yellow. Seeing it slowed down shows that the reason the contact was made was that Jones got the ball, his foot then rolled over it and into the boys leg. But it looks like the referee was shown the still image on the monitor first, before any video footage. That makes it look a million times worse and makes the referee think he's made a major error. Also, why weren't the Villa 2nd and 3rd goals ruled out? Looked offside for the second then how that wasn't a foul on March for the third I just don't understand. The Villa player headed his legs away from him! I think with the rule being “he went over the top of the ball” it had to be checked. Yeah, the villa ones were strange, a few of them you expected some sort of review at least. Var would work if you have the right folk in charge of it and not people who are incompetent. Exhibit A. http://www.skysports.com/share/12973930 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClydeTon Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 10 hours ago, No_Problemo said: I’ve always wondered why Liverpool are so disliked on here - values wise they surely measure up (royal, Tory hating etc) more similarly to people on here than any other side! I’m obviously assuming no one takes that into account, but for me it’s probably my most liked place in England. Footballing wise having Doak and Robertson there helps too. Aye, I agree with their anti-monarchy and anti-tory stuff, but most of them now are Glory Hunters and Tourists, they have a view that they are some sort of godsend of a club, and they are usually quite deluded. They have a thing for "bantering" other clubs whenever they lose a game (the banter also being unfunny as f**k, it makes me want to shoot myself), and then throw a tantrum when you call them out. Half of them, apart from the 'real' fans, know nothing about football. Also, this: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 3 hours ago, buchan30 said: I think with the rule being “he went over the top of the ball” it had to be checked. Yeah, the villa ones were strange, a few of them you expected some sort of review at least. Var would work if you have the right folk in charge of it and not people who are incompetent. Exhibit A. http://www.skysports.com/share/12973930 This is the nub of it. I’m in favour of the technology, but there’s no excuse for people sitting in a wee box getting it so badly wrong. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kebab Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moomintroll Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 What bit of endangering the safety of an opponent is that slevering fuckwit Neville not getting. Learn the fucking Laws of the Game that you are handsomely paid for pontificating on. Jones could have quite easily broken the other players leg & caused a severe ankle dislocation with his actions, it was a textbook red card. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cptn Hooch Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 Surprised VAR hasn't called the ref's attention to a penalty for Brentford there....the attacker nicks the ball off the keeper and gets a kick in the back of the leg for his trouble 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crow Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 5 hours ago, ClydeTon said: Aye, I agree with their anti-monarchy and anti-tory stuff, but most of them now are Glory Hunters and Tourists, they have a view that they are some sort of godsend of a club, and they are usually quite deluded. They have a thing for "bantering" other clubs whenever they lose a game (the banter also being unfunny as f**k, it makes me want to shoot myself), and then throw a tantrum when you call them out. Half of them, apart from the 'real' fans, know nothing about football. Also, this: Lol I don’t think these types on twitter are the best gauge. Putting all the controversy aside going down there yesterday was worried lose to an inform Spurs side and Man City could end the day 5 points clear. Gap still just 2 and feel further convinced that Liverpool are the real deal again despite the loss as with 11 / 10 & 9 men they were impressive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
senorsoupe Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 Things have gone decidedly pear shaped for Forest 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19QOS19 Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 10 hours ago, The Golden God said: There’s a few reasons to hate Liverpool but the main one is the disgusting Scouse accent. It is on a man. On a woman I find it bizarrely hot. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salvo Montalbano Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 (edited) Wrong post Edited October 1, 2023 by Salvo Montalbano 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 2 hours ago, Moomintroll said: What bit of endangering the safety of an opponent is that slevering fuckwit Neville not getting. Learn the fucking Laws of the Game that you are handsomely paid for pontificating on. Jones could have quite easily broken the other players leg & caused a severe ankle dislocation with his actions, it was a textbook red card. You obviously read the wrong textbooks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moomintroll Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 1 minute ago, Granny Danger said: You obviously read the wrong textbooks. That is a possibility I can be absent minded at times. No, wait, Neville is a slever who wouldn't last two minutes if he ever attempted to actually Referee a match. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velo army Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 4 hours ago, 19QOS19 said: It is on a man. On a woman I find it bizarrely hot. Same. The weirdest of kinks. (and yes, I know the Kinks were from London, before anyone says it) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewDon Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 The likes of Jonathan Liew and Barney Ronay producing some very clever 'Well, maybe we should just replay every game, then!' takes after the weekend's VAR antics, I see. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 The VAR really facing the heat now that they've totally screwed one of the big teams with a dreadful calls. They might have to sack someone since the boilerplate apology and the offending official being given a day off hasn't cut it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMMjag Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 I will be making use of my (£3,000) season ticket at The Cottage for tonight's West London derby. Partly to network with some v prestigious business contacts, but mostly in protest at Botchettino's 'tippy-tappy' nonsense poisoning our club. I can only imagine how some of the current lot would get on in one of our traditional dressing rooms; but I have a fond image of JT, Wisey and Cunders holding Cole Palmer's head down a toilet. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 The biggest issue with that VAR non-decision is that it gives Liverpool fans something else to whine about. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 2 hours ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: The biggest issue with that VAR non-decision is that it gives Liverpool fans something else to whine about. That’s a stupid thing to say from a poster who usually doesn’t say stupid things. On a different note, why is the English referees’ body allowing their officials to go abroad to referee matches that has f**k all to do with the English game? VAR officials for the Liverpool match - England, Cook and fourth official Michael Oliver - were also part of an officiating team who took charge of a league game in the United Arab Emirates on Thursday, just 48 hours before Saturday's fixture. The Football Association had approved the trip, with the trio arriving in London on Friday to prepare for Saturday's game. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 It's not as preposterous as the SFA allowing their teams to go abroad to play games which have nothing to do with Scottish football during the season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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