Sergeant Wilson Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, Hauzen said: Sorry about the 17 years you shouldn't have spent in our prison but you now need to pay us for the privilege Innocent man wrongly jailed for 17 years 'could have to pay prison thousands for board and lodgings' Does he get to keep his 60 inch telly and PlayStation? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hauzen Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 6 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said: Does he get to keep his 60 inch telly and PlayStation? Do they get to trade in models when they're in prison? 17 years ago he'd probably have been given a PS2, not exactly been able to pop into CEX to get cash to upgrade and we're all at PS5s now so he's going to need a bit of money to upgrade his tech... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 5 minutes ago, Hauzen said: Do they get to trade in models when they're in prison? 17 years ago he'd probably have been given a PS2, not exactly been able to pop into CEX to get cash to upgrade and we're all at PS5s now so he's going to need a bit of money to upgrade his tech... Don't know, but he should leave a bad review if they make him pay. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 Pay hangmen footballers wages. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 15 hours ago, tongue_tied_danny said: I agree. I'd also bring back hanging for people who say "mac and cheese". On 26/07/2023 at 23:42, Granny Danger said: A fish platter for dinner last night including lobster from the Lobster Shack in Crail - for anyone who has not tried it I would highly recommend it. Kept some of the tail meat for Mac and Cheese tonight, wonderful flavour. Pleas in mitigation: 1. I didn’t say it, I wrote it down. 2. I capitalised both words (or does that make it worse). 3. I’m a really nice person (ok that risks a perjury charge). 4. There are diminished responsibility factors. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt n Vinegar Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 13 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: Pleas in mitigation: 1. I didn’t say it, I wrote it down. 2. I capitalised both words (or does that make it worse). 3. I’m a really nice person (ok that risks a perjury charge). 4. There are diminished responsibility factors. You appear to be a Dundee United supporter. There's not a court in the land that wouldn't take the view that you've suffered enough. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 On 26/07/2023 at 13:42, FreedomFarter said: I only clicked this thread hoping to see Partridge, first page! He got quoted by Snobot on the first page. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 8 hours ago, Hauzen said: Sorry about the 17 years you shouldn't have spent in our prison but you now need to pay us for the privilege Innocent man wrongly jailed for 17 years 'could have to pay prison thousands for board and lodgings' That's been horrific for that guy throughout this, I saw that he couldn't get out early because he never apologised or showed contrition. I'd have probably lied and faked an apology/contrition just to get out, the guy is extremely strong willed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hk blues Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 18 hours ago, Salt n Vinegar said: You appear to be a Dundee United supporter. There's not a court in the land that wouldn't take the view that you deserve the death penalty. FTFY. Harsh, but fair IMO. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty dingus Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 16 hours ago, bennett said: That's been horrific for that guy throughout this, I saw that he couldn't get out early because he never apologised or showed contrition. I'd have probably lied and faked an apology/contrition just to get out, the guy is extremely strong willed. He said in an interview he couldn't fake guilt as it wasn't just a case of admitting something he didn't do it meant he was going to have to do all these group therapy sessions and lie that he was a deviant along with genuine wrong 'uns. He was also scathing of the appeal board trying to take some glory from the outcome as they were blanking him until the evidence of wrongful conviction was handed to them on a plate by @we_are_APPEAL 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 The Tree of Life synagogue shooter gets the death penalty, the jury ruling that he wasn't suffering from mental disorder at the time of the crime. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-66388484 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 Some common sense, I hope they refund those who have previously paid for the privilege of being wrongly convicted. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shotgun Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 17 years, ffs. Almost half his adult life. Imagine how lost he'll be trying to reintegrate into society, get a job etc. Christ, Falkirk were in the Premiership when he went inside. He'll be totally lost. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 9 minutes ago, Shotgun said: 17 years, ffs. Almost half his adult life. Imagine how lost he'll be trying to reintegrate into society, get a job etc. Christ, Falkirk were in the Premiership when he went inside. He'll be totally lost. "But they are a massive club with a huge travelling support, how can that be?" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
54_and_counting Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 On 27/07/2023 at 18:19, GordonD said: This is suggested quite often but the Army doesn't want people like that. Neither does the public, bad enough if criminals are willing to harm innocent members of the public, worse if we actually train them to do so in a more efficient way lol 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soapy FFC Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 https://www.theguardian.com/law/2023/aug/16/former-solicitor-general-calls-for-public-inquiry-into-wrongful-conviction-of-andrew-malkinson The more you read about this case, the more you wonder if a line has been crossed where it should move from being a case of incompetence, to being a criminal matter. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 5 hours ago, Soapy FFC said: https://www.theguardian.com/law/2023/aug/16/former-solicitor-general-calls-for-public-inquiry-into-wrongful-conviction-of-andrew-malkinson The more you read about this case, the more you wonder if a line has been crossed where it should move from being a case of incompetence, to being a criminal matter. Given they had compelling exculpatory DNA evidence within 4 years of the conviction and simply ignored it and/or dismissed it multiple times, criminal charges should be the least of it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hk blues Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 4 hours ago, TxRover said: Given they had compelling exculpatory DNA evidence within 4 years of the conviction and simply ignored it and/or dismissed it multiple times, criminal charges should be the least of it. If everything is as black and white as it now seems, I wonder why there was no-one fighting his corner tooth and nail in the past? I'm certain some media interest would have been more than happy to fight his cause if it was as clear a case of miscarriage of justice as it now seems. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 8 hours ago, hk blues said: If everything is as black and white as it now seems, I wonder why there was no-one fighting his corner tooth and nail in the past? I'm certain some media interest would have been more than happy to fight his cause if it was as clear a case of miscarriage of justice as it now seems. The problem is some were fighting, and the system kept refusing and stalling any actions. They fought, but the process is slow and bizarre. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beefybake Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, hk blues said: If everything is as black and white as it now seems, I wonder why there was no-one fighting his corner tooth and nail in the past? I'm certain some media interest would have been more than happy to fight his cause if it was as clear a case of miscarriage of justice as it now seems. Listening to BBC R4 in the car yesterday a bit after 1pm, not sure what programme that is...... Every man and his dog, including the defence people, knew about the DNA find after a handful of years. Apparently , the Criminal Cases Review Commission was underfunded, and the Appeals Court was notorously dificult to persuade to change their mind over a conviction, plus the fact that the original conviction was done on the basis of identification. For those reasons, the Review Commission did a cost/perceived benefit analysis (to themselves) and declined to act. The person being interviewed , the lawyer Michael Mansfield, basically said the whole system was corrupt, in the way it has acted towards the guy. Police, Crown Prosecutors, the CCRC, the Appeals system...., and he very much pointed towards the weight that is put on 'identification' rather than scientifc evidence. Oh, and no one let on that the identifiers were petty criminals with convictions as long as your arm. Edited August 17, 2023 by beefybake 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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