D Angelo Barksdale Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 It was all a bit light on details about what shape this new tour(s) will take. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pozbaird Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, Herc said: It was all a bit light on details about what shape this new tour(s) will take. New team format will see Rory McIlroy and Graeme McDowell joined by two unheard of Irish diddies as ‘The Norn Irons’. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 4 minutes ago, pozbaird said: New team format will see Rory McIlroy and Graeme McDowell joined by two unheard of Irish diddies as ‘The Norn Irons’. Wonder if his Monday night thing he was planning with Tiger will still go ahead ? The Saudi's now own a share in it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pozbaird Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 9 minutes ago, Herc said: Wonder if his Monday night thing he was planning with Tiger will still go ahead ? The Saudi's now own a share in it. Breaking news - Rory & Tiger press conference… ‘We’ve been lied to, let down, we’re shocked and disappointed by the whole affair’. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funky_nomad Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 The more I think about today's bizarre happenings, the more I'm reminded of an episode of Succession. It wouldn't surprise me if Kendall Roy appeared somewhere on the new Board of GoJo Golf. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 The big rumour on Twitter is that Norman is out. Frankly, that is the best possible decision they could have made. If Monahan follows him quickly, the whole thing might have a chance 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 I also wonder if LIV/PIF have left the Asian Tour high and dry with this merger. They were getting decent fields and a bit investment from LIV but there's zero chance these boys will be playing the Vietnam Open now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds are Forever Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 Not saying for a second I thought this was going to happen, but I felt off the back of the last 2 majors something big was going to have to change. I always felt the PGA just hoped that LIV was just going to seen as a tour for washed-up has-beens and that the PGA would be where those who still took it seriously played. But the performance of the LIV guys at the Masters, and then Brooks winning the PGA showed that that isn't the case, and that by joining LIV players can have their cake and eat it by getting paid a fortune, playing less, and then competing/winning the majors. The World Rankings have also become a joke off the back of it. The PGA backed themselves into a corner due to arrogance and mismanagement from the start and the end result is this total mess. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raidernation Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 8 hours ago, MP_MFC said: https://www.cnbc.com/2023/06/06/pga-tour-agrees-to-merge-with-saudi-backed-rival-liv-golf.html Well now. That's.....quite something. f**k RIGHT OFF c***s! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ro Sham Bo Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 It sounds as though Monahan copped a bit of flak at the meeting with the players. No doubt it'll all be water off a ducks back to him though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 f**k it. Let's have some other private wealth fund walloper offering Rory, Rahm, Scheffler etc a way out to form another breakaway tour. in for a penny...... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 It'll be interesting to see how they work this. The team thing especially as its now been effectively 'legitimised', maybe the big name sponsors and the F1 type set up they were after might now happen. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pozbaird Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 10 minutes ago, Herc said: It'll be interesting to see how they work this. The team thing especially as its now been effectively 'legitimised', maybe the big name sponsors and the F1 type set up they were after might now happen. Just my opinion, but golf as a team sport only works in the formats we already know - individual golfers coming together to represent their country, or as the Ryder Cup developed, to represent their continent / tour. It works because there is some sense of history behind it, the plucky European tour players against the giant that could call upon talent a hundred times better and deeper… but it changed, ever so slowly. It organically developed into a situation whereby Seve Ballesteros and those who came along were not only the equal of, but better than, the big bad Yanks. You could see it, smell it and feel it - guys like Poulter and Garcia (for all their faults), they deeply cared, really fcuking cared about it. About skelping the Americans… You throw together a team of strangers and call them the Crushers, the Mavericks, or the Flyers or whatever… just fcuking no. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtie23 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 Surely Monahan can’t survive this? I read that Fleetwood didn’t attend and when asked by a reporter why he wasn’t going he just shrugged his shoulders and said he was going to work on his short game 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 17 minutes ago, pozbaird said: Just my opinion, but golf as a team sport only works in the formats we already know - individual golfers coming together to represent their country, or as the Ryder Cup developed, to represent their continent / tour. It works because there is some sense of history behind it, the plucky European tour players against the giant that could call upon talent a hundred times better and deeper… but it changed, ever so slowly. It organically developed into a situation whereby Seve Ballesteros and those who came along were not only the equal of, but better than, the big bad Yanks. You could see it, smell it and feel it - guys like Poulter and Garcia (for all their faults), they deeply cared, really fcuking cared about it. About skelping the Americans… You throw together a team of strangers and call them the Crushers, the Mavericks, or the Flyers or whatever… just fcuking no. Aye, it's obviously not going to be for everyone tbf, but they were already looking at making an Australian team, South African team, South American team etc. With the right schedule, format minus the shan team names and the big name sponsors will be lining up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pozbaird Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Herc said: Aye, it's obviously not going to be for everyone tbf, but they were already looking at making an Australian team, South African team, South American team etc. With the right schedule, format minus the shan team names and the big name sponsors will be lining up. No doubt. No doubt all the current big golf sponsors that have their name on tournaments will continue to sponsor them no matter what umbrella the tournament now operates under. Saudi funded or whatever. Can’t see Rolex for example, suddenly not sponsoring golf. Hell, they probably sell more of their expensive goods in Saudi than just about anywhere anyway. It’s absolutely not something I want to watch - there’s no chance, not a chance in a million, of me ever wondering what some artificially created golf ‘team’ are up to, or how they are doing. Looking up a website or whatever to view a ‘league table’ to see if the ‘Aussie Krushers’ or whatever are moving up the table? It simply does not even register on my list of things to do. Right up there with me checking the latest USA professional lacrosse league scores, or how the table tennis in Beijing went last night. Edited June 7, 2023 by pozbaird 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 13 hours ago, peasy23 said: My take from that letter is that LIV have realised they are still way behind in terms of tv coverage etc, and have flung a huge wad of cash at Monahan to cave in and "merge" the tours. This is what I don't get about it, LIV is tanking on ratings, the last tournaments final round was scratched for a rerun of aomething else on the US TV deal they have, it's not like LIVs product is so good that it's in any way rivalling the PGAs. The team aspect is only really enjoyed by the casual mashed potato mob, traditional golf fans have the Ryder Cup and other similar team events to watch and a season team format I don't think will have much appeal. It can only be that the Saudis have offered eye watering money to merge and the PGA has sold its players down the river. For profit and tax exempt. Lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 19 minutes ago, pozbaird said: No doubt. No doubt all the current big golf sponsors that have their name on tournaments will continue to sponsor them no matter what umbrella the tournament now operates under. Saudi funded or whatever. Can’t see Rolex for example, suddenly not sponsoring golf. Hell, they probably sell more of their expensive goods in Saudi than just about anywhere anyway. It’s absolutely not something I want to watch - there’s no chance, not a chance in a million, of me ever wondering what some artificially created golf ‘team’ are up to, or how they are doing. Looking up a website or whatever to view a ‘league table’ to see if the ‘Aussie Krushers’ or whatever are moving up the table? It simply does not even register on my list of things to do. Right up there with me checking the latest USA professional lacrosse league scores, or how the table tennis in Beijing went last night. You're not the target audience for this though. Hideki Matsuyama's Srixon Samurais taking on Sunjae's Genesis Golf will have millions of people invested and tuning in. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pozbaird Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, Herc said: You're not the target audience for this though. Hideki Matsuyama's Srixon Samurais taking on Sunjae's Genesis Golf will have millions of people invested and tuning in. If the Samurais are up against the Maryhill Mashie Jags in a relegation playoff, I might tune in for that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 28 minutes ago, The Moonster said: This is what I don't get about it, LIV is tanking on ratings, the last tournaments final round was scratched for a rerun of aomething else on the US TV deal they have, it's not like LIVs product is so good that it's in any way rivalling the PGAs. The team aspect is only really enjoyed by the casual mashed potato mob, traditional golf fans have the Ryder Cup and other similar team events to watch and a season team format I don't think will have much appeal. It can only be that the Saudis have offered eye watering money to merge and the PGA has sold its players down the river. For profit and tax exempt. Lol. I don't think the team thing will be season long like it is now. The Saudi's have a seat at the table which is what they were after all along. LIV in its current form is probably dead in the water alongside Norman. Imo they'll move to having the elite play 12-16 elevated events between January and August, with the Saudis putting up the extra cash to get the good fields for the non US based events, then a team thing sponsored by Aramco in the off season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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