Guest Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 (edited) Anyhoo, having watched RC wrap up the title, it’s even more galling to think that McKinnon couldn’t even field a side to beat that Queens outfit. They are seriously gash, yet the league table shows that we are worse. Edited April 26, 2019 by Duncan Freemason 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squeekybairn Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 9 hours ago, Ecosse83 said: No doubt the board have fucked up on certain things but not sure they can take all of the blame for what Hartley done. A good manager could have put together a good team with the funds they provided. Possibly the only mistake was not having someone in-between the manager and board who knows more about football. We all wanted Hartley and were delighted when he was given the job. Just a shame he turned out to be a complete and utter c**t of epic proportions! using the word "all" a bit loosely there, I've never been a fan. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank von Hell Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 9 hours ago, Bainsfordbairn said: The recruitment process is simple. Manager gets a budget. Manager decides how it's spent. Manager often moans about it in private, but he still spends what he's given. His decisions on who to sign are based on his own opinion and advice from football people he trusts. He does not sign players based on processes set by the board. I know this from having spoken to the different coaches & club staff who've worked for our last three managers. I don't know what "correct processes other decent professional clubs" have. I'd be interested to find out though. Can you give examples? Preferably from clubs at our level? Apart from budget restrictions, I'd love to hear what processes Ian McCall has to follow that we should also be using. Scout identifies a target, discusses with manager, manager goes to watch player to assess quality , manager does research on player as to character & where player can be added to the team & in the system, manager discusses player with chairman or director of football or CEO giving justification for the signing , negotiations begin between chair/CEO & club/player on financials. Player signs or doesn't. I agree our Chair & CEO don't have the football knowledge to assess a player , but this is an area that the club had identified as needing to fill. If we did have someone like that in place maybe they might have said look Paul you are filling our whole team with rookies untried at our level , is that not too much of a risk. Ian McCall said in an interview the single most important relationship at his club or any club is between the manager and the chairman , they talk constantly about new targets and signings. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falkirkfan6871 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 A win tomorrow and lose to county will be enough for 9th if Alloa lose last two. A win and draw might do it for 8th. Draw tomorrow take it to the last game. If Alloa win and we lose its game over. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwedge77 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 I agree, however unfortunately for us, if as it seems quite likely that Goodwin will move onward and upwards next season whatever league we are in, it is a stick on that Hartley will be back in the Alloa managers' chair. Mulraney thinks the sun shines out of Hartley's erse and i suspect his mind will not be swayed despite his failings at Dundee and Falkirk. "Hard-ons don't make you think less. They make you think stupid. Which makes me think you must have one 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falkirkfan6871 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 I think he will try he tried and trusted formation and try and sneak a win. A draw takes it to the last game. If queens lose it would be a cup final beat County and stay up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crawford Bridge Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 38 minutes ago, Falkirkfan6871 said: I think he will try he tried and trusted formation and try and sneak a win. A draw takes it to the last game. If queens lose it would be a cup final beat County and stay up. Word salad. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank von Hell Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 12 hours ago, Marshmallo said: This is not a joke or wind up from me - I would probably cry with joy if Yogi came back to Falkirk. Well I heard him on BBC Sportsound , the manager's job was vacant at the time , and he said absolutely no to a return to Falkirk because of "too much bad blood". He did not elaborate so I don't know who or what he was referring to but surely the folks he had a beef with have gone now? Plus he's getting more desperate now for a job. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 There is no formula to employing a successful manager. The art of employing a manager like players can be the luck of a roll of a dice and unfortunately we haven't been rolling high numbers in both the manager and player departments. I dont think someone with a bit football savvy upstairs helps all too much, would be a benefit no doubt but Alex Smith was around for years and the same carnage has been ongoing when he was here and when he was gone, in fact he gave the board the green light re HartleyIf you think they took and notice of AS you are on it early. They have had Alex Totten around the club for 17 years and never ask him anything. Of course it helps having people who know the game in the Boardroom. People who are streetwise and do know the difference between and football and an orange would be a start. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JinkyBairn Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 What we thinking for today then boiz? Getting beat aye? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmallo Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, JinkyBairn said: What we thinking for today then boiz? Getting beat aye? Yes. I'll say 3-0. -4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JinkyBairn Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 1 minute ago, Marshmallo said: Yes. I'll say 3-0. Sounds about right. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LauriestonBairn Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 using the word "all" a bit loosely there, I've never been a fan.I didn’t understand the excitement when we appointed him. Was never convinced. Didn’t expect him to make a complete a*se of it either right enough! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopeStreetWalker Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 24 minutes ago, JinkyBairn said: Sounds about right. Expect the unexpected. Beat United, Draw with County and get relegated on goal difference due to a last minute goal elsewhere. Would not surprise me one bit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distant Doonhamer Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 20 minutes ago, HopeStreetWalker said: Expect the unexpected. Beat United, Draw with County and get relegated on goal difference due to a last minute goal elsewhere. Would not surprise me one bit. Can't happen as it would involve our gang getting another point. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 Wer not beating Utd today lads soz. All that can be acheived this season now is a heated stand off between the SS and those that run the club after the final whistle next week. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDust Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 2 hours ago, Back Post Misses said: If you think they took and notice of AS you are on it early. They have had Alex Totten around the club for 17 years and never ask him anything. Of course it helps having people who know the game in the Boardroom. People who are streetwise and do know the difference between and football and an orange would be a start. The board repeatedly acknowledged the work and assistance publicly re Alex Smith for years, so I'm guessing you have facts they didn't then ? Boards generally have business minded people running the finance with hope they appoint the right man for the football side, let's not forget how Man Utd appointed David Moyes on the recommendation of Sir Alex. I'm not sticking up for our board here, they have been a bunch of clueless coonts and will take us down this season 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grangemouth Bairn Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 51 minutes ago, LauriestonBairn said: I didn’t understand the excitement when we appointed him. Was never convinced. Didn’t expect him to make a complete a*se of it either right enough! I didn’t want Hartley from the start. I’ve always thought he was an arrogant wee tramp. He’s the worst manager we’ve had in my lifetime, worse than Lambie imo, and fucked us over with awful signings like Dallison, ToE and Lewis. People can say what they want about him doing well at Alloa, I don’t give a f**k about Alloa, I only care about Falkirk. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Suffering Bairn Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 New club motto: Expect the Expected. My heart is hopeful we'll pull it out of the fire last two games. My head knows from long experience it's not going to happen. Alloa will get at least a point today and we lose 4-0 and 4.50pm we're down due to QOS better goal difference. I would be ecstatic if I am wrong. Let me be wrong. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 The board repeatedly acknowledged the work and assistance publicly re Alex Smith for years, so I'm guessing you have facts they didn't then ? Boards generally have business minded people running the finance with hope they appoint the right man for the football side, let's not forget how Man Utd appointed David Moyes on the recommendation of Sir Alex. I'm not sticking up for our board here, they have been a bunch of clueless coonts and will take us down this seasonSo you are believing what that shower are telling you? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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