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'The Fear' you get after a heavy night's drinking is often discussed in General Nonsense.

To those who haven't suffered from it, one of the things it causes, at least for me, is bouts of 'The Fear' for no particular reason. Often it can last day (and it's easier for some to just sleep during these times, something I've done before) or just hours (you can hear a song and your mood can flip, you read or see or hear something funny and a pressure lifts from you, or you have a nap and wake up feeling better).

You can be having a good day, deluding yourself that you're much better, then something happens and by your reaction, which is way out of proportion and ascribes all sorts of wild things to people and totally blows things up.

Case in point; today I was sort of 'scolded' by someome at work for something that wasn't my fault. I was pretty furious and was thinking that the guy hated me, thought I was a piece of shit and worthless and was going to get me fired. All from a 10 second exchange.

I was really angry for the rest of the day (forunately only 30 minutes) and after I left I was thinking that I wasn't ever going back, how much I hate the pishy job and really started mentally having a go at myself. I calmed down a bit but plan to call in sick tomorrow. I was thinking I shouldn't as there's shit I have to do, but then I realised I was worrying about a job I'll (hopefully) be leaving in 2/3 months and which I don't like or really care about. I was playing over scenarios in my head where I went in and got in a huge argument with management that ended in me quitting there and then.

In writing this, whilst walking home, I've calmed down more so unsure about what I'll do tomorrow.

All this from a silly wee thing where the guy was simply a bit annoyed for a few seconds and has most likely already forgotten it. He most likely doesn't hate me and most likely doesn't have any real opinion of me. It annoys me more that I got in such a state over nothing.

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Having been TT for over 2 years I recently fell back into old habits, big time, the nasty spiral of drinking because I was depressed which makes me depressed because I was drinking, etc.

I am now in outpatient rehab 5 days a week for Alcohol dependency and depression. Clean for 10 days so far.

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Having been TT for over 2 years I recently fell back into old habits, big time, the nasty spiral of drinking because I was depressed which makes me depressed because I was drinking, etc.

I am now in outpatient rehab 5 days a week for Alcohol dependency and depression. Clean for 10 days so far.

Well done, mate! :thumsup2

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Bit random but currently reading Meitations by Marcus Aurelius. It's all about stoicism, a mindset one should strive for basically choosing to do things that are rational and not based on emotion, try and control your emotion in the face of adversity, interpreting other people's emotions/minset etc..etc... Very enlightening although slighly muddy (it's a translation of random musings that Aurelius jotted down at the time),

Two books that really changed my perspective were Down and Out by George Orwell and Man's search for meaning by Viktor Frankl.

What about you?

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Bit random but currently reading Meitations by Marcus Aurelius. It's all about stoicism, a mindset one should strive for basically choosing to do things that are rational and not based on emotion, try and control your emotion in the face of adversity, interpreting other people's emotions/minset etc..etc... Very enlightening although slighly muddy (it's a translation of random musings that Aurelius jotted down at the time),

Two books that really changed my perspective were Down and Out by George Orwell and Man's search for meaning by Viktor Frankl.

What about you?

'Meditations' is good. So is a lot of philosophy. Schopenhauer and Chateaubriand for example.

My little bible is 'Reveries of the Solitary Walker' by Jean-Jacques Rousseau.

Rousseau was a paranoiac and depressive and, for me, a fascinating character who lived an amazing life and who had....eh....some mental problems. The Reveries are really about trying to cope with being a paranoiac and depressive and extract little joys from life.

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I'm starting a meditation class in January so I'll check out those books above. I can be quite an angry person, my emotions definitely cloud my decisions which in turn I feel are making me depressed, or at least having an effect on my depression. Like the sounds of the Aurelis book and, like Ya Bezzer, people like Rousseau fascinate me.

It's funny, thinking back even just a few years, I'd have branded stuff like meditation and a lot of philosophy as bollocks but that and physics is just about all I read about now.

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'Meditations' is good. So is a lot of philosophy. Schopenhauer and Chateaubriand for example.

My little bible is 'Reveries of the Solitary Walker' by Jean-Jacques Rousseau.

Rousseau was a paranoiac and depressive and, for me, a fascinating character who lived an amazing life and who had....eh....some mental problems. The Reveries are really about trying to cope with being a paranoiac and depressive and extract little joys from life.

Good shout. I'll have a look for them as I'm really into my philosophy podcasts (Philosophy bites and The philosophers zone).

I only just got into stoicism and lucked onto the book because the gf and I decided to randomly browse in Oxfam one day. Almost finished and tempted to read a bit of kierkegaard (existentialism always interested me) before jumping into some Seneca.

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I'm starting a meditation class in January so I'll check out those books above. I can be quite an angry person, my emotions definitely cloud my decisions which in turn I feel are making me depressed, or at least having an effect on my depression. Like the sounds of the Aurelis book and, like Ya Bezzer, people like Rousseau fascinate me.

It's funny, thinking back even just a few years, I'd have branded stuff like meditation and a lot of philosophy as bollocks but that and physics is just about all I read about now.

Don't be fooled though, there is a massive overlap before woo-ey alternative medicine (life coachey crap) and meditation. I probably wouldn't bother if it involved money, as everyone will have their own way to be in the moment..

R:E Marcus Aurelius, if you have an e-reader, you can usually find a pdf or torrent on the internet, (or you can pm me and I can send you it via e-mail).

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Don't be fooled though, there is a massive overlap before woo-ey alternative medicine (life coachey crap) and meditation. I probably wouldn't bother if it involved money, as everyone will have their own way to be in the moment..

R:E Marcus Aurelius, if you have an e-reader, you can usually find a pdf or torrent on the internet, (or you can pm me and I can send you it via e-mail).

The class is being run by a friend and it's only a 6 week introductory class so I doubt we'll be diving in too deep for now. There's about 15 of us doing it and the hire of the hall is £10 so it's less than a quid each. If I find it too life-coachy/preachy then I'll stop it, I'm just at the stage where I'm willing to try just about anything to help me along. Just hoping this can show me the way and then I can look to get what I want from it.

PM sent :)

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Having trouble sleeping at night, have been tried on both Sedative and Hypnotic sleeping Tablets. Neither work on me. Still waiting on Counseling

I had my first couseling session a couple of weeks ago (waited 3 months) and was presented with a CD (lasts about 20 mins) which gives tips on muscle relaxation to help sleeping problems. I also got a couple of pages of notes through the door giving some tips to help sleeping problems too.

It obviously doesnt cure you instantly but its a start, I've found it pretty useful particularly the CD. I'll be happy to take photos of the key points in the notes and send you them in a PM if you want?

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I had my first couseling session a couple of weeks ago (waited 3 months) and was presented with a CD (lasts about 20 mins) which gives tips on muscle relaxation to help sleeping problems. I also got a couple of pages of notes through the door giving some tips to help sleeping problems too.

It obviously doesnt cure you instantly but its a start, I've found it pretty useful particularly the CD. I'll be happy to take photos of the key points in the notes and send you them in a PM if you want?

Have the CD you mentioned, it doesn't help

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I had my first couseling session a couple of weeks ago (waited 3 months) and was presented with a CD (lasts about 20 mins) which gives tips on muscle relaxation to help sleeping problems. I also got a couple of pages of notes through the door giving some tips to help sleeping problems too.

It obviously doesnt cure you instantly but its a start, I've found it pretty useful particularly the CD. I'll be happy to take photos of the key points in the notes and send you them in a PM if you want?

Set a reminder on your phone to remind you to do it every-day to reap the benefits. It's all about trying to apply the hints in real-life scenarios.

I love using this app to keep track of meds, daily routines etc.. I'm sure some of you could use it too - add a widget to your home screen.

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I have a zillion and one questions to ask about my wife's depression and its effect on me. (She took an overdose last week but hey ho I just have to get on with it!) This is not the proper platform for any of them. Where do I go?

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I have a zillion and one questions to ask about my wife's depression and its effect on me. (She took an overdose last week but hey ho I just have to get on with it!) This is not the proper platform for any of them. Where do I go?

Mind, Breathing Space, See Me or your doctor (obviously not specifically relating to her unless she's given permission, just for general advice) should be able to help. There's bound to be others.

I hope she getting the right help now and well done to you for looking for ways to help her.

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