Michael W Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Florentine_Pogen said: I'm hoping that David Conn at The Guardian and other journos who have been working on this for years have plenty of evidence that's being held back atm. The schadenfreude at seeing Mone & Barrowman being taken down would be off the charts. Unfortunately, threatening to sue based on allegations that something is false, yet it is actually true, doesn't seem to be illegal. Dan Neidle reported her solicitors on the basis that it ought to have been clear the allegations were actually true, and that the threat was a SLAPP. Whether anything actually happens remains to be seen (probably not). However, hiding the company's true ownership is illegal. Which is what it appears she and her husband have done. Edited December 17, 2023 by Michael W 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 I know there's not a lot of love for her on here, but I thought Laura Kuenssberg handled it skilfully. She pressed them just enough to make it uncomfortable for them both, but also stood back sufficiently to let them gormlessly hang themselves. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Kelly Isley III Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 3 hours ago, Billy Jean King said: Mone might well be thick as two short planks but I doubt her legal team is. This looks to be a carefully plotted media "campaign" by them which obviously the lawyers think must be in their best interests. A lot is going to depend on other people within the govt "food chain" basically admitting to what appears outwardly to be obvious corruption within those processes. These are Tories we are talking about and I for one would be stunned to see Mone and her man anywhere near a Court never mind convicted despite how unpalatable that may be. Whilst I fundamentally agree with this, I think that once the Tories are ejected from Government the dam may begin to burst. It is much easier to employ the full panoply of Government machinery to close down inquiry and accusation when in office, and conversely much more difficult for habitual liars like Gove to dominate the agenda when out of it. Paradoxically though it may be Starmer who proves the biggest barrier to bringing the criminal and corrupt of the Covid times to account, on the grounds that he won't wish to inflame the attack dogs of the right-wing media by pursuing the guilty. That however may not save the Barrowmans as they may become the sacrificial offering to close the story down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 Fair play, she only lied and covered it up to protect her family, and the money all went into a trust that she can't touch at the moment. Nothing to see here, eh? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superbigal Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 Apparently politicians that lie have a protect your family clause inserted in their job titles now. Mone and Mathieson does sound like a cheap STV drama about public service corruption. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thane of Cawdor Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 Early in the interview Barrowman says: They must have been satisfied in the end to have awarded the contract," However, the last word sounds like con-trick before he speaks it clearly. We can't fool our subconscious mind. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 1 hour ago, O'Kelly Isley III said: Whilst I fundamentally agree with this, I think that once the Tories are ejected from Government the dam may begin to burst. It is much easier to employ the full panoply of Government machinery to close down inquiry and accusation when in office, and conversely much more difficult for habitual liars like Gove to dominate the agenda when out of it. Paradoxically though it may be Starmer who proves the biggest barrier to bringing the criminal and corrupt of the Covid times to account, on the grounds that he won't wish to inflame the attack dogs of the right-wing media by pursuing the guilty. That however may not save the Barrowmans as they may become the sacrificial offering to close the story down. Unfortunately, incoming governments have a tendency to turn a blind eye in the hope that they'll receive the same treatment for the crimes they're going to commit due to lack of evidence, statute of limitations, wooly memories, deaths of key witnesses, people just want to move on from this unfortunate episode, etc. Certainly not going to be listening to any of Moan's whining, but if she hasn't been pointing out that troughing was standard government behaviour during COVID, that's a pretty good indicator that she still feels protected. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian1 Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 "It's not a crime" to lie. aye, Fred West should have lied more and he may just have got away with it. What a horrible cow she is.....like many others i think this orchestrated media campaign is to paint her as the victim (just most victims dont end up £60m richer) Why did Kuennesburg travel to see her? Surely should have gone to London / Manchester for the interview - dont feel comfortable having the public purse pay for this pish. Does Isle of Man keep her safe from UK prosecution? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTG Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 Class response to her greetin' 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florentine_Pogen Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/dec/17/how-the-michelle-mone-scandal-unfolded-200m-of-ppe-contracts-denials-and-a-government-lawsuit Timeline of Mone & Barrowman's PPE grift. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alta-pete Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 I’m still unsure on the take as to how Barrowman and his wife, both domiciled in the Isle of Man - presumably for tax reasons - having won such a profitable HMG contract and then won’t pay UK tax, are still so fêted in this country. Hound the c***s to f**k I’m sure Venezuela is lovely. Let them stay there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 17 hours ago, Monkey Tennis said: I think she genuinely is stupid. The arguments she was attempting to construct in the interview were laughable. I've not watched it yet. I'm not a lawyer or an accountant and don't think I'm that clever, but I knew any sentient being would be able to spit peas through her story. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leith Green Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 "I might not benefit from the £29m in a tax free offshore trust unless my chubby husband dies" isnt really the kind of defence that will play well with most of the public. Paraphrasing Kevin Keegan, I would love to be part of the jury that convicts this horrible boot and sends her to a 6 x 8 jail cell. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrif John Bunnell Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 This clip sums her up perfectly. Being utterly thick, topped up with the arrogant "Why's that wrong Richard?" 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, Leith Green said: "I might not benefit from the £29m in a tax free offshore trust unless my chubby husband dies" isnt really the kind of defence that will play well with most of the public. Paraphrasing Kevin Keegan, I would love to be part of the jury that convicts this horrible boot and sends her to a 6 x 8 jail cell. The only reason it went into a trust is to stop the daft boot from blowing the lot on prosecco and shoes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Nederlander Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Sherrif John Bunnell said: This clip sums her up perfectly. Being utterly thick, topped up with the arrogant "Why's that wrong Richard?" She was on a celebrity version of The Apprentice many moons ago and I remember watching it at the time and being rather surprised at how utterly shite she was on it. Edited December 18, 2023 by Ned Nederlander 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 2 hours ago, Sherrif John Bunnell said: This clip sums her up perfectly. Being utterly thick, topped up with the arrogant "Why's that wrong Richard?" "Southern Ireland" Actually, I take it back, she's one of us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marten Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 14 hours ago, alta-pete said: I’m still unsure on the take as to how Barrowman and his wife, both domiciled in the Isle of Man - presumably for tax reasons - having won such a profitable HMG contract and then won’t pay UK tax, are still so fêted in this country. Hound the c***s to f**k I’m sure Venezuela is lovely. Let them stay there. They claimed they moved to the IoM because it's quiet and they like that apparently, nothing to do with tax reasons. Sure, because there are no remote, quiet, places anywhere in Scotland (or England/Wales if they don't want to be in Scotland)... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 58 minutes ago, Marten said: They claimed they moved to the IoM because it's quiet and they like that apparently, nothing to do with tax reasons. Sure, because there are no remote, quiet, places anywhere in Scotland (or England/Wales if they don't want to be in Scotland)... 15 hours ago, alta-pete said: I’m still unsure on the take as to how Barrowman and his wife, both domiciled in the Isle of Man - presumably for tax reasons - having won such a profitable HMG contract and then won’t pay UK tax, are still so fêted in this country. Hound the c***s to f**k I’m sure Venezuela is lovely. Let them stay there. As a member of the House of Lords, Michelle Mone cannot become non-resident in the UK for tax purposes. Perhaps she has another problem brewing... Another member of the HoL recently found this out the hard way. And, yes, it is exactly the one you thought of. https://uk.news.yahoo.com/lord-sugar-tried-dodge-186m-104223403.html 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 I'm watching now, it's worse than I thought. It seems she was only following orders. He obviously regrets ever clapping eyes on her. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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