HibeeJibee Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Clubs which qualify for Europe for the first time - or haven't qualified for half a decade (or something like that) - use their country's 'base' coefficient. Otherwise you'd have a number of clubs in each round with 0. Clubs whose own coefficient has dropped below the base figure do the same. Rarely does it actually make any difference e.g. turn a Scottish non-seed into a seed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d31 Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Confirmed for the draw for QR1/QR2 of Europa QR1 St Johnstone SEEDED Rangers SEEDED QR2 Aberdeen SEEDED St Johnstone SEEDED Rangers NOT seeded 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Confirmed for the draw for QR1/QR2 of Europa QR1 St Johnstone SEEDED Rangers SEEDED QR2 Aberdeen SEEDED St Johnstone SEEDED Rangers NOT seeded [emoji23] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepundit Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Rangers have still got the best chance out of the 3 teams of getting through to 3rd round. Would be good if all 3 can get to the groups though. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 3 hours ago, thepundit said: Rangers have still got the best chance out of the 3 teams of getting through to 3rd round. Have you seen the draw, or are you basing this on Rangers' unbeaten record in Europe? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionel hutz Posted May 21, 2017 Author Share Posted May 21, 2017 I'm saying it now, my really positive prediction: Celtic will make either the Lat 16 of the CL or the Last 8 of the EL Aberdeen will make the group stages of the Europa League Saints will be in the play-off Rangers will get knocked out in the 3rd Round 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d31 Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 so your prediction is Celtic may not cause any upsets Aberdeen will cause two upsets Saints will cause one upset Rangers will cause two upsets A lot of positivity there - I like it 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lubo_blaha Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 On 2017-5-21 at 19:32, thepundit said: Rangers have still got the best chance out of the 3 teams of getting through to 3rd round. Do they f*ck 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 On 21/05/2017 at 19:32, thepundit said: Rangers have still got the best chance out of the 3 teams of getting through to 3rd round. Would be good if all 3 can get to the groups though. Tbh on what basis have you made that fairly bold assertion? They have the biggest budget, granted, but they have just finished a distant second to Aberdeen. They (and most of their players) have not got European experience - Aberdeen will be playing their 4th straight season. They are starting at QR1 - Aberdeen will be starting at QR2. They will only be seeded in QR1 - St Johnstone and Aberdeen will both be seeded in QR2 (if St Johnstone make it). Caixhinha's European experience amounts to a single campaign with Nacional where they beat a team from the Faroe Islands, beat the Fair Play entrants from Sweden, then lost to Birmingham of the Championship. Over in Central America he led Santos Laguna through 2 rounds of CONCACF CL kos right after starting - losing in the final - but then failed to qualify for 2yrs and finally left after a prelim tie win over a Trinidad team. Never qualified in Asia. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepundit Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 3 hours ago, HibeeJibee said: Tbh on what basis have you made that fairly bold assertion? They have the biggest budget, granted, but they have just finished a distant second to Aberdeen. They (and most of their players) have not got European experience - Aberdeen will be playing their 4th straight season. They are starting at QR1 - Aberdeen will be starting at QR2. They will only be seeded in QR1 - St Johnstone and Aberdeen will both be seeded in QR2 (if St Johnstone make it). Caixhinha's European experience amounts to a single campaign with Nacional where they beat a team from the Faroe Islands, beat the Fair Play entrants from Sweden, then lost to Birmingham of the Championship. Over in Central America he led Santos Laguna through 2 rounds of CONCACF CL kos right after starting - losing in the final - but then failed to qualify for 2yrs and finally left after a prelim tie win over a Trinidad team. Never qualified in Asia. You've asked me the question but provided the answer in your own comment: Budget.:) That said, this is the 2nd round we are talking about. Aberdeen and Rangers should advance without too many problems so arguing who has the best chance of getting through is a bit of a pointless argument. St Johnstone I don't really believe will go through if I am being honest. Hope I'm wrong though. In terms of European experience, that's another pointless argument. There's quality players out there with no European experience who'd perform far better than the Dons players in next seasons Europa League for the simple reason that they are a better player. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionel hutz Posted May 23, 2017 Author Share Posted May 23, 2017 On 2017-5-22 at 18:43, d31 said: so your prediction is Celtic may not cause any upsets Aberdeen will cause two upsets Saints will cause one upset Rangers will cause one upset A lot of positivity there - I like it FTFY 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarapoa Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 On 5/23/2017 at 22:13, thepundit said: You've asked me the question but provided the answer in your own comment: Budget.:) That said, this is the 2nd round we are talking about. Aberdeen and Rangers should advance without too many problems so arguing who has the best chance of getting through is a bit of a pointless argument. St Johnstone I don't really believe will go through if I am being honest. Hope I'm wrong though. In terms of European experience, that's another pointless argument. There's quality players out there with no European experience who'd perform far better than the Dons players in next seasons Europa League for the simple reason that they are a better player. Dons have been unseeded in QR2 the last two seasons, and won each time. Of the three sides we knocked out at that stage - I could see this Sevco squad taking care of Ventspils, but not Groningen or Rijeka. Good to see Sevconians retain their sense of entitlement and assumption that some lavish budget is about to thrown their way to produce an all-conquering Euro team - even if some big wages are thrown at them (a la Barton, Garner, Senderos, Kranjcar etc), having them up to speed for these early rounds is a tall order. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepundit Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 1 minute ago, tarapoa said: Dons have been unseeded in QR2 the last two seasons, and won each time. Of the three sides we knocked out at that stage - I could see this Sevco squad taking care of Ventspils, but not Groningen or Rijeka. Good to see Sevconians retain their sense of entitlement and assumption that some lavish budget is about to thrown their way to produce an all-conquering Euro team - even if some big wages are thrown at them (a la Barton, Garner, Senderos, Kranjcar etc), having them up to speed for these early rounds is a tall order. Some interesting points. I'll respond to each paragraph... 1st) Which proves my point it's hardly worth arguing about. Both teams will go through. 2nd) That's your opinion. I agree we'd win against Ventspils, Groningen would but more difficult but I'd still expect Rangers to win. Admittedly I don't know much about Rijeka but what I would say is - if Aberdeen can go there and put 5 past them I doubt Rangers would struggle. 3rd) I'm not expecting a "lavish budget". I'm realistic enough to know there might be a few on high salaries but most signings will be in the region of £5k-£10k such as Kenny McLean and Ryan Jack for example. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarapoa Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 4 minutes ago, thepundit said: Admittedly I don't know much about Rijeka but what I would say is - if Aberdeen can go there and put 5 past them I doubt Rangers would struggle. Let me educate you on their recent home record. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepundit Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 19 minutes ago, tarapoa said: Let me educate you on their recent home record. Yeah, I read that when you initially mentioned them. But my opinion on the matter remains the same. Still, if Rangers can avoid them next season (as they are champions and could potentially end up in the Europa League playoffs) I'd have no complaints!........ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 Apparently they've not lost a home game since we twatted them 3-0 a couple of years ago Utter scenes that night tbf 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10menwent2mow Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 Apparently they've not lost a home game since we twatted them 3-0 a couple of years ago Utter scenes that night tbf I backed Considinho 1st scorer at 66/1 that night. #scenes 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 With many leagues finishing and cup finals today, much clear idea of potential opponents:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017–18_UEFA_Europa_League#First_qualifying_round 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menzel Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 On 2017-5-24 at 23:10, thepundit said: Admittedly I don't know much about Rijeka but what I would say is - if Aberdeen can go there and put 5 past them I doubt Rangers would struggle. We went to Dens Park and put seven past Dundee. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootingboots Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Looking forward to the coefficient rocketing in the next few years now rangers are 'back'. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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