AJF Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 53 minutes ago, Hoose Rice said: We have a winner: Steven Naismith has been named Heart of Midlothian's technical director because his lack of Uefa Pro Licence means he cannot be appointed manager. The 36-year-old cannot begin to obtain the licence until next year, so Frank McAvoy has been named head coach. So effectively: “he cannot officially manage the club but we’ve created a sham position to flout the rules” 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyline Drifter Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 57 minutes ago, Hoose Rice said: We have a winner: Steven Naismith has been named Heart of Midlothian's technical director because his lack of Uefa Pro Licence means he cannot be appointed manager. The 36-year-old cannot begin to obtain the licence until next year, so Frank McAvoy has been named head coach. To be fair, is that not a "Most Tinpot Thing We've Seen in UEFA" candidate really? The SPFL would have allowed it. 26 minutes ago, The Master said: One for @Skyline Drifter to figure out for the "In the hot seat" thread. Fecking feckity feck! Not a scooby what I'm going to do about that. My inclination given Hearts have made it very clear that in reality Naismith is in charge, is that he should continue to be considered manager in the thread. I bet he has final say on picking the team etc and, assuming he gets a Pro Licence next summer, and is still there, I expect that will be formalised. Surely nobody really thinks Frankie McAvoy is in charge. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leith Green Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 33 minutes ago, Skyline Drifter said: Surely nobody has heard of Frankie McAvoy. ftfy m9 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, Leith Green said: ftfy m9 I thought he was a jockey. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 15th in the Lowland League Cowdenbeath getting invited into the League Cup instead of Stirling Uni must be well up there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 7 minutes ago, welshbairn said: 15th in the Lowland League Cowdenbeath getting invited into the League Cup instead of Stirling Uni must be well up there. Yeah, I have no idea why Cowdenbeath are in it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, welshbairn said: 15th in the Lowland League Cowdenbeath getting invited into the League Cup instead of Stirling Uni must be well up there. It'll be the last time we ever see them in the League Cup, so maybe it's just a nice gesture. Give them Dundee United, Arbroath, and Dumbarton again, just like in their first campaign. Albion Rovers will be fizzing if they're ignored in a year's time. 2 minutes ago, kingjoey said: Yeah, I have no idea why Cowdenbeath are in it. They're the last side to have been relegated from League Two. I'm guessing it's a fudge to avoid choosing between the Highland/Lowland leagues. Pretty funny considering how poor Cowden were last year. Edited June 7, 2023 by BTFD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PossilYM Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 Don't get much more tinpot than inviting Cowdenbeath into the League Cup as a payoff for voting in the B teams. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 Just now, BTFD said: It'll be the last time we ever see them in the League Cup, so maybe it's just a nice gesture. Give them Dundee United, Arbroath, and Dumbarton again, just like in their first campaign. Albion Rovers will be fizzing if they're ignored in a year's time. As will Brechin if they're ignored as second in the Highland League next season. It's worth not far off 40k, same as the bribe offered to Conference (RIP) volunteers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyline Drifter Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 17 minutes ago, welshbairn said: 15th in the Lowland League Cowdenbeath getting invited into the League Cup instead of Stirling Uni must be well up there. 10 minutes ago, kingjoey said: Yeah, I have no idea why Cowdenbeath are in it. Hadn't actually picked up on that. I didn't pay enough attention to the Lowland League outwith top spot. Didn't realise they weren't next. Is there any justification they've actually issued for that then? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 7 minutes ago, BTFD said: It'll be the last time we ever see them in the League Cup, so maybe it's just a nice gesture. Give them Dundee United, Arbroath, and Dumbarton again, just like in their first campaign. Albion Rovers will be fizzing if they're ignored in a year's time. They're the last side to have been relegated from League Two. I'm guessing it's a fudge to avoid choosing between the Highland/Lowland leagues. Pretty funny considering how poor Cowden were last year. The HL and LL second finishers have been taking it in turns the last 2 years with no dispute. This is just weird. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, welshbairn said: As will Brechin if they're ignored as second in the Highland League next season. It's worth not far off 40k, same as the bribe offered to Conference (RIP) volunteers. Presumably this will end up being a stealth issue that annoys people/clubs more as we get closer to the new season, with the press and SPFL ignoring it as diddy stuff that nobody cares about. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 10 minutes ago, Skyline Drifter said: Hadn't actually picked up on that. I didn't pay enough attention to the Lowland League outwith top spot. Didn't realise they weren't next. Is there any justification they've actually issued for that then? Just this. Quote Cowdenbeath, who were relegated from cinch League 2 in 2022, have accepted an invitation to take the remaining space in this year’s first round group stage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 5 minutes ago, BTFD said: Presumably this will end up being a stealth issue that annoys people/clubs more as we get closer to the new season, with the press and SPFL ignoring it as diddy stuff that nobody cares about. I found it a bit staggering how little media coverage the farcically unfair conference proposal got, didn't even get a mention on A View from the Terrace, I'm sure this will be the same. You SPFL boys don't know you're born.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyline Drifter Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 24 minutes ago, welshbairn said: It's worth not far off 40k, same as the bribe offered to Conference (RIP) volunteers. It's not worth as much as that. Assuming they get 5th it's only £22k (or was last year, I doubt prizes this year will be significantly higher). Even 2nd and not reaching last 16 is only £29k. Still, a guaranteed £22k is not to be sniffed at considering how many other Lowland league sides (discount the B sides obviously) finished above them even before you mention the other Highland League sides. I'm really not sure how that's justified as an invite. Presumably it can only be as the most recent relegated SPFL side but that's not the precedent. I guess the fact Rangers and Celtic B were 2nd and 3rd is a complication. Doesn't explain why Stirling Uni or Buckie weren't asked though (I'm assuming that every club between 3rd and Cowdenbeath were not asked and declined the invitation!). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buchan30 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 (edited) Apologies that i am not up to speed on this. But, why are cowden being invited? I presumed it was all to do with league position? Edit: apologies, just seen why. Edited June 7, 2023 by buchan30 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Skyline Drifter said: It's not worth as much as that. Assuming they get 5th it's only £22k (or was last year, I doubt prizes this year will be significantly higher). Even 2nd and not reaching last 16 is only £29k. Still, a guaranteed £22k is not to be sniffed at considering how many other Lowland league sides (discount the B sides obviously) finished above them even before you mention the other Highland League sides. I'm really not sure how that's justified as an invite. Presumably it can only be as the most recent relegated SPFL side but that's not the precedent. I guess the fact Rangers and Celtic B were 2nd and 3rd is a complication. Doesn't explain why Stirling Uni or Buckie weren't asked though (I'm assuming that every club between 3rd and Cowdenbeath were not asked and declined the invitation!). I was told that every Highland League club was initially told that every non B conference club would get a League Cup spot, when that was withdrawn interest pretty well evaporated. So it's financially significant just for the group stage. Edited June 7, 2023 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, welshbairn said: I found it a bit staggering how little media coverage the farcically unfair conference proposal got, didn't even get a mention on A View from the Terrace, I'm sure this will be the same. You SPFL boys don't know you're born.. It's the same every year with the Celtgers reserves - big splash in the press about how colts/B teams/whatever are coming to the SPFL long before they/the SPFL/the SFA actually give the clubs any official details about what they've got planned, then silence after discussions take place and it becomes obvious they're going to be told to bolt again. Cue a small "not happening after all" paragraph in the papers, followed by gnashing of teeth from the paid mouthpieces about 'Scottish football' being held back by the diddies yet again. We don't factor into the equation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 (edited) 14 hours ago, Skyline Drifter said: It's not worth as much as that. Assuming they get 5th it's only £22k (or was last year, I doubt prizes this year will be significantly higher). Even 2nd and not reaching last 16 is only £29k. Still, a guaranteed £22k is not to be sniffed at considering how many other Lowland league sides (discount the B sides obviously) finished above them even before you mention the other Highland League sides. I'm really not sure how that's justified as an invite. Presumably it can only be as the most recent relegated SPFL side but that's not the precedent. I guess the fact Rangers and Celtic B were 2nd and 3rd is a complication. Doesn't explain why Stirling Uni or Buckie weren't asked though (I'm assuming that every club between 3rd and Cowdenbeath were not asked and declined the invitation!). Is potential gate money on top of that, I don't know how it works? Edited June 8, 2023 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyline Drifter Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 (edited) 24 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Is potential gate money on top of that, I don't know how it works? Yes, fair point. Gate money on top. I was thinking of the prize money only. 4 half gates for Cowdenbeath will obviously depend who they draw but could potentially be worth another five figures. Not if they get Ross County and Inverness likely but I guess the likes of the Dundee clubs, Dunfermline or Falkirk, Raith would all be money spinners for them. Edited June 8, 2023 by Skyline Drifter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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