Crùbag Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 Labour not doing as well as hoped in some areas. Starmer's pro-Israel stance has lost them votes and they've been defeated in Tees Valley, one of the poorest places in the country. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Kelly Isley III Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 2 hours ago, Crùbag said: Labour not doing as well as hoped in some areas. Starmer's pro-Israel stance has lost them votes and they've been defeated in Tees Valley, one of the poorest places in the country. As usual the devil is in the detail, and whilst Labour will milk the headline results, the turnouts, and especially the Tory ones, are the most important statistics. These results also give little clue as to what will happen in a GE where there will a huge fundamental to confront - England is a Conservative nation. So much so that in order to get near 10 Downing Street the Labour party has had to drag itself ever further to the right. And even if they DO manage to win, their stay is unlikely to last very long, as fundamentally England is a Conservative nation, operating on a rinse-and-repeat basis, no matter how horrendous the situation has become. If you're content with this then vote Tory or Labour. But if you stay in Scotland then you'd be bloody daft to. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PossilYM Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 6 minutes ago, O'Kelly Isley III said: As usual the devil is in the detail Some say the Devil is dead........... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 13 minutes ago, PossilYM said: Some say the Devil is dead........... 08/04/2013 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 Losing Basildon has put a final boot into Thatcher's legacy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrif John Bunnell Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 Starmer could be about to miss the biggest open goal of all time. What a loser. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 13 minutes ago, Sherrif John Bunnell said: Starmer could be about to miss the biggest open goal of all time. What a loser. This is how it looks. A Labour/Lib Dem alliance? Ironically might be slightly more progressive than Starmer’s Labour only government. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 Sadiq Khan in danger in London? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagar Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 12 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: This is how it looks. A Labour/Lib Dem alliance? Ironically might be slightly more progressive than Starmer’s Labour only government. Bloody hilarious. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 What are the issues that the Lib Dems will pretend to care about in exchange for a couple of seats in the cabinet? Just had a look at their website and it's very airy-fairy and "things should just be better" without a lot of actual commitments. Nothing to go back on, I suppose. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpetmonster Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 16 minutes ago, ICTChris said: Sadiq Khan in danger in London? I’d be surprised. The Tory candidate is a bombscare and I’d presume only got the nod because no bigger fish wanted to get humped. Although I have read that her record as a councillor and in the London Assembly is somewhat decent and her campaign - which has gone for the absolute lowest common denominator - might have been dictated to her from on high. Possible effort to see how Reform-ish they could go? Could be jettisoned now if Reform continue to do as pishly as they have when all the results are in. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 (edited) 44 minutes ago, ICTChris said: Sadiq Khan in danger in London? Labour were saying it was close but there's a suspicion they were playing games Edited May 3 by DeeTillEhDeh 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salvo Montalbano Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 51 minutes ago, ICTChris said: Sadiq Khan in danger in London? GB News types saying that Hall was leading despite votes not being counted until tomorrow. Other loon balls calling conspiracy because it allows Khan to ballot stuff and get fake postal votes in. Think Khan will win by a good few % but it won't be a landslide. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 The turnout seems to be significantly higher in outer London boroughs which favours Hall. My team in work is 50% based in London and several of them are vehemently anti-Khan. One guy said if Khan wins he’s going to sell his car because the ULEZ makes it too expensive to keep, he was praying for a Hall win 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 Count Binface to win 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 The Sky News prediction is also a little unlikely. Voting patterns in a General Election would be different to a local election and drawing conclusions on overall vote share doesn’t take into account weighting towards winnable seats etc. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 I mentioned on the other thread they would be screaming about postal ballet fraud Step 1 start the rumour of it being close Step 2 lose Step 3 scream fraud Straight out of Trump's playbook 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 1 hour ago, ICTChris said: The Sky News prediction is also a little unlikely. Voting patterns in a General Election would be different to a local election and drawing conclusions on overall vote share doesn’t take into account weighting towards winnable seats etc. There won't be anywhere near the same volume of votes going to local independents in a GE for starters. It's also hard to draw conclusions in terms of how this will play out nationally from the very weird way that England organises and elects its local authorities. I think Khan will win in London, although he isn't very popular. He's facing a terrible candidate but he faced one last time in Shaun Bailey and didn't win as convincingly as everyone thought he would. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 1 hour ago, ICTChris said: The Sky News prediction is also a little unlikely. Voting patterns in a General Election would be different to a local election and drawing conclusions on overall vote share doesn’t take into account weighting towards winnable seats etc. Just now, Michael W said: There won't be anywhere near the same volume of votes going to local independents in a GE for starters. It's also hard to draw conclusions in terms of how this will play out nationally from the very weird way that England organises and elects its local authorities. Quite, it's junk: a GB extrapolation Lab 35%, Con 25%, LDs 15%, Rest 25% (high in council elections from Inds: was 10% in 2019 GE). Polls have Lab far higher, LDs far lower, Rest lower (despite Reform)/etc. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freedom Farter Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 "Senior Labour party source". I wish they'd name the individual when stuff like this comes out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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