flyingscot Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 Don't think there is enough in it for a penalty. Then again it is the penalty fest F1 of 2019 so... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 What a really good race that was. Pen for Max?Shouldn't be imo, but who knows what the stewards think these days. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackie The Staggie Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 Just now, doulikefish said: Max gets a 5 sec penalty That's a fake document apparently, no official notice yet 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 That's a fake document apparently, no official notice yet Yeah just deleted that post,i got it from a well respected journo aswell [emoji23] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackie The Staggie Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 1 minute ago, doulikefish said: Yeah just deleted that post,i got it from a well respected journo aswell yeah, tbf it got almost everyone waiting for the decision. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 Max confirmed as the winner. Right choice but feel a bit for Leclerc - wouldn't have been bothered had it been Hamilton, Bottas or Vettel but would have been nice to see him take his first win. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrif John Bunnell Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 That's some turnaround for Honda after the McLaren banter years. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 So much for the ‘Ferrari International Assistance’, who by two totally contradictory verdicts on what a driver can do with their car have actually stopped them from claiming either win this month. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Sherrif John Bunnell said: That's some turnaround for Honda after the McLaren banter years. First win for a Honda since Jenson Button in 2006. You wonder what the f**k they were doing at McLaren. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingscot Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 So what caused Mercedes to be weak in Austria and drawn back into the pack? Is it track layout / temperatures? Is it high speed aero corners that it lacks? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeek Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 According to the driver's it was purely temperature related. Seems odd that it hasn't occurred anywhere else though. Maybe a perfect storm of this being one of their weaker tracks so they're not miles out in front getting that ooh so good clean 'cool' air 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrif John Bunnell Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 Bernie once suggested sprinklers could liven up F1, but maybe patio heaters are be the way to go? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 The Ferrari engines finally offer a better power option than Mercedes on the grid, so a (mostly) point and squirt track like Austria or Bahrain can give them an edge. Mercedes have cleverly focused their development to aerodynamics which is why they've still got a far better all-round package though. No idea how Verstappen found that race pace yesterday other than having fresher tyres. Despite the entertainment yesterday Formula 1 badly needs the return (and requires use) of refueling to bring back another strategy/f**k-up element to the sport instead of the one-stop tyre management between obvious pit windows right now. With DRS it's far more plausible for cars to sprint between multi-stops on low fuel now and make the strategy work, instead of getting stuck behind Trulli for 25 laps like they would fifteen years ago. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dindeleux Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, virginton said: The Ferrari engines finally offer a better power option than Mercedes on the grid, so a (mostly) point and squirt track like Austria or Bahrain can give them an edge. Mercedes have cleverly focused their development to aerodynamics which is why they've still got a far better all-round package though. No idea how Verstappen found that race pace yesterday other than having fresher tyres. Despite the entertainment yesterday Formula 1 badly needs the return (and requires use) of refueling to bring back another strategy/f**k-up element to the sport instead of the one-stop tyre management between obvious pit windows right now. With DRS it's far more plausible for cars to sprint between multi-stops on low fuel now and make the strategy work, instead of getting stuck behind Trulli for 25 laps like they would fifteen years ago. I can't see refueling being brought back purely due to the risk element of it. Although they could obviously try to find some way to make it safer than it was previously, I'm not too sure what. On the subject of safety I was sure at the start of 2018 they banned pitstops under 2 secs due to the number of incidents in prior years with cars leaving with loose wheels, however I heard them talking about a sub-2 sec pit for Williams in France (I must've been sleeping when that happened). Is there a regulation in place for this? On the subject of Williams they are clearly going to be at the back for a while but they need to drop Kubica, he's an embarrassment. Edited July 1, 2019 by Dindeleux -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afc_36_0 Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 On the subject of Williams they are clearly going to be at the back for a while but they need to drop Kubica, he's an embarrassment.He’s done remarkably well to come back after his accident but he’s clearly not up to the job. No point in having a 33 year old who has no f1 experience in the last 7 years running around at the back 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingscot Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 12 hours ago, virginton said: The Ferrari engines finally offer a better power option than Mercedes on the grid, so a (mostly) point and squirt track like Austria or Bahrain can give them an edge. Mercedes have cleverly focused their development to aerodynamics which is why they've still got a far better all-round package though. No idea how Verstappen found that race pace yesterday other than having fresher tyres. Despite the entertainment yesterday Formula 1 badly needs the return (and requires use) of refueling to bring back another strategy/f**k-up element to the sport instead of the one-stop tyre management between obvious pit windows right now. With DRS it's far more plausible for cars to sprint between multi-stops on low fuel now and make the strategy work, instead of getting stuck behind Trulli for 25 laps like they would fifteen years ago. I think that is the case, more point and squirt and less aero corners the more Ferrari are closer- see Canada too. Temperatures might have played a further part. Verstappen's pace was ridiculous, they called it right and DRS helped him overtake. Oh and either Verstappen is on another level or Gasly was woeful too. Surprised if Gasly isn't empted soon. Refueling was meant to be brought back in 2017 but team owners are against it as it is cost and danger and they say it leads to more 'pit stop passes' rather than on-track. I think DRS has changed that though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason King Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Gasly and Kubica will not be on the grid next season, Gasly is offering about as much as I would in the Red Bull. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 21 hours ago, Jason King said: Gasly and Kubica will not be on the grid next season, Gasly is offering about as much as I would in the Red Bull. Gasly looked decent at times last season but could probably have done with another year at Toro Rosso. He only got promoted because Ricciardo jumped ship - although he'd had some impressive performances there was nothing that screamed out he should have been moved up when he was. Think it's time for Red Bull to look outwith their young driver programme for a year or so for the main team as they've pretty much run out (which is why three drivers have been brought back in over the last few years) and there's no one ready to step up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainMorton Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Stu said: Gasly looked decent at times last season but could probably have done with another year at Toro Rosso. He only got promoted because Ricciardo jumped ship - although he'd had some impressive performances there was nothing that screamed out he should have been moved up when he was. Think it's time for Red Bull to look outwith their young driver programme for a year or so for the main team as they've pretty much run out (which is why three drivers have been brought back in over the last few years) and there's no one ready to step up. I agree. They lucked in with Vettel and Verstappen, and to a lesser extent Danny Ric but I can’t see any promising talent coming through. Maybe Bottas to move next year when Ocon gets the second Mercedes seat? On another note, does anyone else see Vettel retiring at the end of the season? It’s not going his way and he doesn’t have the same fight about him especially now that he has a team mate who isn’t scared to challenge him. Can see him calling it a day. Edited July 3, 2019 by IainMorton 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crawford Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Oh you absolute beauty, Haas has just been "dumped" by rich energy. No doubt to try and throw Investigators off the obvious money laundering, but very funny bone the less. Stated their reason was because it is "unacceptable" to finish behind a Williams and they are better than that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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