Thistle_do_nicely Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 1 hour ago, The_Kincardine said: It has heehaw to do with ethnic cleansing. That is just silly. Britain is a warm, welcoming country that has been good to new arrivals and they have been good to us. Nothing says warm and welcoming quite like Hostile Environment lmao Windrush shouldnt be forgotten so easily either. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, Thistle_do_nicely said: Nothing says warm and welcoming quite like Hostile Environment lmao Windrush shouldnt be forgotten so easily either. In the extremist UK Nat mind: UK: warm, welcoming and friendly (don’t mention the separatist move that was Brexit or Tory immigration policy); Ireland should really be forced back into it whatever the Irish say or want. Scotland: a separatist hellhole run by Tartan gonks and Natters, full of favelas of unwashed Scotch urchins (this somehow despite Scotland being part of the warm and welcoming, immigrant-friendly UK). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian1 Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 22 hours ago, Clown Job said: Often you hear the phrase "you couldna make this up" This is one of those rare occasions where it could justifiably be said.......Rwanda??? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre Bo Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 1 hour ago, The_Kincardine said: I don't support this policy but it is NOT ethnic cleansing. No need to use such dramatic language. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 Africa!! I thought Rwanda was somewhere in Wales!! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTG Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 4 hours ago, coprolite said: Hook line and sinker. Or trolling. I never can tell He's an odious w****r. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florentine_Pogen Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/apr/14/johnson-the-criminal-lays-down-the-law-for-asylum-seekers "Humanity isn’t the Home Office’s strongest suit. But then, neither is communication. Last week Richard Harrington, the refugees minister, was asked by the broadcaster LBC if the government had any plans to offshore refugees to Rwanda. He replied with an unambiguous no. He had no clue where such an idea might have come from. No one in the Home Office had discussed anything like this with him. It was a non-story; scare tactics from paranoid liberals trying to discredit Priti Patel. Not that the home secretary needs any help. She never fails to discredit herself........" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Boo Khaki Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 3 hours ago, williemillersmoustache said: Imagine signing up to the navy to defend your nation and you end up aboard HMS Cuntbuckle bobbing about in the channel performing ethnic cleansing duties just to deflect from the PMs latest criminal f**k up. Hmm, not sure that's a legit RN vessel. It certainly doesn't fit with naming conventions. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 It's to stop people traffickers is the line they are pedaling which is being swallowed by the media. You can just imagine Mr/Mrs people smuggler "Oh no we better stop smuggling people if they get caught they will be sent to Rwanda" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 3 minutes ago, doulikefish said: It's to stop people traffickers is the line they are pedaling which is being swallowed by the media. You can just imagine Mr/Mrs people smuggler "Oh no we better stop smuggling people if they get caught they will be sent to Rwanda" There’s quite a high chance that these people will just get abandoned in a lay by in some random country or will drown when their dinghy overturns. If that doesn’t put them off I’m not sure Rwanda will 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 1 hour ago, coprolite said: There’s quite a high chance that these people will just get abandoned in a lay by in some random country or will drown when their dinghy overturns. If that doesn’t put them off I’m not sure Rwanda will Absolutely this. These people are desperate to reach a safe haven (and we should maybe be a wee bit proud that the UK is still seen as such*). They will not take the slightest notice of what might happen if they're caught on entry - because they're not planing on getting caught. As for the smugglers - well, they're still getting paid, whether their "clients" end up in Brook House, Rwanda, or the bottom of the Channel. This whole fucking circus is the most hateful dead cat even this shower have pulled. *Despite, on many occasions having produced and sold the weapons that have demolished these refugees' homes in the first place. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 A Yougov poll seems to suggest while a lot of people are against it, the Tories are all for it. I guess that's all they want. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 54 minutes ago, WhiteRoseKillie said: Absolutely this. These people are desperate to reach a safe haven (and we should maybe be a wee bit proud that the UK is still seen as such*). They will not take the slightest notice of what might happen if they're caught on entry - because they're not planing on getting caught. As for the smugglers - well, they're still getting paid, whether their "clients" end up in Brook House, Rwanda, or the bottom of the Channel. This whole fucking circus is the most hateful dead cat even this shower have pulled. *Despite, on many occasions having produced and sold the weapons that have demolished these refugees' homes in the first place. If they are coming from France, surely they have already reached a "safe haven"? Heard a Tory ex MEP on Radio Ulster this morning (can't remember his name Bannerman? double barreled-Bannerman?), trying to justify this exercise (packing these illegal immigrants off to Rwanda), wasn't impressed by his performance, tbh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 24 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said: If they are coming from France, surely they have already reached a "safe haven"? Heard a Tory ex MEP on Radio Ulster this morning (can't remember his name Bannerman? double barreled-Bannerman?), trying to justify this exercise (packing these illegal immigrants off to Rwanda), wasn't impressed by his performance, tbh. France, or at least some of the French, could be described (euphemistically)as "less welcoming" in their attitude towards immigrants. There is certainly a fair amount of anti-Muslim feeling among many French - because, as we know, to some people Muslim is a colour, right? We know that things in Blighty aren't appreciably different in that respect, but these refugees see the UK as some kind of enlightened, welcoming society to aim for. They've got some wake-up call coming, right enough.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 14 minutes ago, WhiteRoseKillie said: France, or at least some of the French, could be described (euphemistically)as "less welcoming" in their attitude towards immigrants. There is certainly a fair amount of anti-Muslim feeling among many French - because, as we know, to some people Muslim is a colour, right? We know that things in Blighty aren't appreciably different in that respect, but these refugees see the UK as some kind of enlightened, welcoming society to aim for. They've got some wake-up call coming, right enough.. I don’t think we should underestimate the value of learning/speaking English due to its spread across the globe. Many immigrants see a native English speaking country as a boon - they can learn a language that will allow them to be understood in many countries. What baffles me is the UK Nat view that everyone should just speak bloody English rather than their own foreignese - but conversely no one should see England (and its subsidiary parts) as a destination, because we don’t want them learning it here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 25 minutes ago, WhiteRoseKillie said: France, or at least some of the French, could be described (euphemistically)as "less welcoming" in their attitude towards immigrants. There is certainly a fair amount of anti-Muslim feeling among many French - because, as we know, to some people Muslim is a colour, right? We know that things in Blighty aren't appreciably different in that respect, but these refugees see the UK as some kind of enlightened, welcoming society to aim for. They've got some wake-up call coming, right enough.. It's still a safe haven, imo. A lot of posters on this part of the board do nothing but castigate and run down the UK, justified in some/many instances, but then in the next breath admit that it's not as bad as a lot of other places. In order to get to France they will have had to pass through Italy/Spain if coming from Africa (maybe even through Greece and then westwards, or if coming from the Middle East through Turkey, Greece, The Balkans, Czech Republic/Austria, Germany, Belgium/Luxembourg/The Netherlands. Are all these places less welcoming than the UK? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williemillersmoustache Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 58 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said: If they are coming from France, surely they have already reached a "safe haven"? Heard a Tory ex MEP on Radio Ulster this morning (can't remember his name Bannerman? double barreled-Bannerman?), trying to justify this exercise (packing these illegal immigrants off to Rwanda), wasn't impressed by his performance, tbh. The accident of UK geography, being further north west and with a moat doesn't remove our responsibility to provide asylum or participate in solving the global refugee crisis. I know you're not making it, but this is a fucking shit argument. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 It's still a safe haven, imo. A lot of posters on this part of the board do nothing but castigate and run down the UK, justified in some/many instances, but then in the next breath admit that it's not as bad as a lot of other places. In order to get to France they will have had to pass through Italy/Spain if coming from Africa (maybe even through Greece and then westwards, or if coming from the Middle East through Turkey, Greece, The Balkans, Czech Republic/Austria, Germany, Belgium/Luxembourg/The Netherlands. Are all these places less welcoming than the UK?There is no obligation on anyone to settle in the first country they hit. Legal or otherwise. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, Bairnardo said: 7 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said: It's still a safe haven, imo. A lot of posters on this part of the board do nothing but castigate and run down the UK, justified in some/many instances, but then in the next breath admit that it's not as bad as a lot of other places. In order to get to France they will have had to pass through Italy/Spain if coming from Africa (maybe even through Greece and then westwards, or if coming from the Middle East through Turkey, Greece, The Balkans, Czech Republic/Austria, Germany, Belgium/Luxembourg/The Netherlands. Are all these places less welcoming than the UK? There is no obligation on anyone to settle in the first country they hit. Legal or otherwise. Maybe we should fire them over to Ireland. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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