'WellDel Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 11 hours ago, D-Fens Foster said: Whoever finishes in the playoff place I can’t see them losing to Ayr/Partick. As an innocent bystander i think a Killie/Ayr final would be very interesting for the neutral. Still fancy any of the Prem teams to come out on top tho. If it's Killlie, over two legs their decent home record/shitey playing surface would be enough to see them over the line against either. Of the other three remaining possibilities, County and Utd have both at least had spirited wins in the recent past and I could see them being able to lift themselves and galvanise for a last battle to survive. Should the least likely set of results transpire and St Johnstone somehow manage to f**k it from here, I'd have them as the Championship sides best shot at glory. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Marly Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 On 15/05/2023 at 15:08, PSJ.84 said: 20/1 for us to finish bottom is decent odds Bet365 offering 66-1. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSJ.84 Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 15 minutes ago, The Marly said: Bet365 offering 66-1. Saw that, aye. Probably worth a couple of quid. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 On 24/04/2023 at 16:57, RandomGuy. said: Its a remarkable timeline we have. Considine in August - "we can finish in the top 4" Considine in October - "we can finish in the top 6" Considine in January - "we can finish in the top 6" MacPherson in March - "we can win 5 games in a row and make top 6" Considine in April - "we can win 5 in a row and comfortably avoid relegation" Presumably the next stage is "we can win both our final games and avoid 12th" Today - Steven MacLean - " We will be in the Premiership" (next season) Just shut up with this pish. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIVIFOREVER Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 2 hours ago, RandomGuy. said: Today - Steven MacLean - " We will be in the Premiership" (next season) Just shut up with this pish. So what you're saying is, you hope to f**k it doesn't go to the last game and your players are being quoted saying "We will beat Livingston and stay up". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi2 Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 This weekend is certainly massive in the grand scheme of things..if neither Utd or County win away at Livi and Well (2 draws are fine), and Killie do win..it 'should' take Killie out of the equation of finishing 12th as it would be: Killie 37 Saints 36 County 34 Utd 32. To finish last from there Killie would need to lose to both Utd and County and Utd would have to also win away to Well. Pretty much 1 point required from last 2 games v Utd and County to guarantee at least 11th. Can't see Utd winning at Well, Killie losing to both Utd and County and Saints beating Livi all happening. However whatever the results are this weekend will go a long way to deciding it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 Said around September it's impossible not to relegated with our goalkeepers, and so it shall transpire. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 The Motherwell fan in my work has agreed that they will let us get the necessary result on the final day as long as we let van Veen score enough to get to 30 for the season. Obviously, we'll be down and he'll have hit that target by kick-off, but it's a nice gesture. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handsome_Devil Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 16 hours ago, Jedi2 said: This weekend is certainly massive in the grand scheme of things..if neither Utd or County win away at Livi and Well (2 draws are fine), and Killie do win..it 'should' take Killie out of the equation of finishing 12th as it would be: Killie 37 Saints 36 County 34 Utd 32. To finish last from there Killie would need to lose to both Utd and County and Utd would have to also win away to Well. Pretty much 1 point required from last 2 games v Utd and County to guarantee at least 11th. Can't see Utd winning at Well, Killie losing to both Utd and County and Saints beating Livi all happening. However whatever the results are this weekend will go a long way to deciding it. If I were you I'd very much see United winning at us on the last day. With a few games to go contracts are still up in the air, by the last day all that's decided and players (possibly with one exception!) are on the beach. We'd have finished seventh with a last day result (draw or win, I forget) against County last season, played at walking pace and got beat 2-1 from 1-0 up. If United need a result at FP (which looks pretty certain), they'll bring a huge support and will probably get it on desire alone. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Meeker Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 United have shown so little desire though. Plus everyone can see a run at our defence and a pass in behind does us every time, as well as a strong likelihood that any shot on target from anywhere on the pitch will get past the worst goalkeeper I've seen in the 40 years I've been going. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadasdillinger Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 On 16/05/2023 at 21:47, D-Fens Foster said: As an innocent bystander i think a Killie/Ayr final would be very interesting for the neutral. Please no 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie McSquackle Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 2 hours ago, Handsome_Devil said: If I were you I'd very much see United winning at us on the last day. With a few games to go contracts are still up in the air, by the last day all that's decided and players (possibly with one exception!) are on the beach. We'd have finished seventh with a last day result (draw or win, I forget) against County last season, played at walking pace and got beat 2-1 from 1-0 up. If United need a result at FP (which looks pretty certain), they'll bring a huge support and will probably get it on desire alone. So, genuinely a case of them wanting it more? Maybe Celtic have had the right approach all along . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swello Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 56 minutes ago, deadasdillinger said: Please no I can understand why Killie fans would hate the very thought of it - but for everyone else it would be an epic needle match and 100 times more interesting than the Cup Final. I remember when we relegated Falkirk at Fir Park years back - the (considerable) relief that day wasn't about us staying up as a result - it was the fact that we'd avoided a playoff with 90's Airdrie which would have been the ultimate nightmare game for us. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarto Mutiny Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 4 hours ago, Handsome_Devil said: If I were you I'd very much see United winning at us on the last day. With a few games to go contracts are still up in the air, by the last day all that's decided and players (possibly with one exception!) are on the beach. We'd have finished seventh with a last day result (draw or win, I forget) against County last season, played at walking pace and got beat 2-1 from 1-0 up. If United need a result at FP (which looks pretty certain), they'll bring a huge support and will probably get it on desire alone. Desire? This is Dundee United we're talking about here 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadasdillinger Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 2 hours ago, Swello said: I can understand why Killie fans would hate the very thought of it - but for everyone else it would be an epic needle match and 100 times more interesting than the Cup Final. I remember when we relegated Falkirk at Fir Park years back - the (considerable) relief that day wasn't about us staying up as a result - it was the fact that we'd avoided a playoff with 90's Airdrie which would have been the ultimate nightmare game for us. My nerves were shredded for the 2012 semi and this would be bigger still. It would be a bigger game for them than us. The chance to relegate us is something they could lord over us forever. If we win we stop them sealing promotion which isn't nearly as juicy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 On 17/05/2023 at 15:42, Jedi2 said: This weekend is certainly massive in the grand scheme of things..if neither Utd or County win away at Livi and Well (2 draws are fine), and Killie do win..it 'should' take Killie out of the equation of finishing 12th as it would be: Killie 37 Saints 36 County 34 Utd 32. To finish last from there Killie would need to lose to both Utd and County and Utd would have to also win away to Well. Pretty much 1 point required from last 2 games v Utd and County to guarantee at least 11th. Can't see Utd winning at Well, Killie losing to both Utd and County and Saints beating Livi all happening. However whatever the results are this weekend will go a long way to deciding it. There is also the possibility that by Saturday Saints could be second bottom on goal difference. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIVIFOREVER Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 11 hours ago, Handsome_Devil said: If I were you I'd very much see United winning at us on the last day. With a few games to go contracts are still up in the air, by the last day all that's decided and players (possibly with one exception!) are on the beach. We'd have finished seventh with a last day result (draw or win, I forget) against County last season, played at walking pace and got beat 2-1 from 1-0 up. If United need a result at FP (which looks pretty certain), they'll bring a huge support and will probably get it on desire alone. Two seasons ago? Last season you came back from 2-0 to draw with us 2-2 in ET, and moved above us into the top 6 in the final pre split game. You finished the season in 5th place. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handsome_Devil Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 15 minutes ago, LIVIFOREVER said: Two seasons ago? Last season you came back from 2-0 to draw with us 2-2 in ET, and moved above us into the top 6 in the final pre split game. You finished the season in 5th place. Quite right. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YassinMoutaouakil Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 Was a good laugh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinny arab Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 With the rumour that Fletcher is out for the final 3 games we might as well just merge this with the Utd thread. Who would have guessed having just 1 striker (an ageing 1 who was always likely to pick up an injury) would come back and bite us on the arse. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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