milhouse Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 On 02/01/2022 at 15:58, welshbairn said: I bet Andrew thought that coming up with not being able to sweat and going for a pizza in Woking was pure genius at the time. Now the prosecution are demanding proof which could be awkward. It may well appear on some Royal appointment diary somewhere which they can produce - he may well even have been there, table at 6PM, skipped the ice cream for dessert as champing at the bit to get along to Tramp's nightclub. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lofarl Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 Well you could argue that that deal only applies so long as both parties are alive. Ones dead and can’t really contest it 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 If Andrew gets off with this on the basis of being a pal of a notorious paedophile and a potential defendant then his reputation (lol) is completely in the bin. Only royalists on Nicholas Witchell levels of bootlicking would believe him now surely. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alert Mongoose Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Adam said: That’s the 2009 settlement been released, showing that Roberts (Giuffre) agreed not to sue anyone personally related to Epstein, who could be described as a potential defendant, in exchange for $500,000. Hard to see how the case can go on based on this, would be fantastic to see more young women coming out of the woodwork that haven’t made any previous settlements, but think the Royal Family may be breathing a big sigh of relief following this. Hang on I thought the scumbag only knew Epstein as a mutual acquaintance of that despicable Maxwell? Can’t have it both ways surely. Edited January 3, 2022 by Alert Mongoose 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lofarl Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 Can you be subject to a contract like this one without your knowledge or consent? Seems to be Andrew would have to have known about this deal or he would not be party to it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Priti priti priti Patel Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 58 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Unless they were hoping to settle before it got this far? Although I'd have thought the Royals would have paid anything to get her to shut up. Yes, very true, that may have been their objective. 57 minutes ago, Lofarl said: Well you could argue that that deal only applies so long as both parties are alive. Ones dead and can’t really contest it Yes, that's potentially another loophole. There is a common law doctrine called privity of contract, whereby only a signatory of a contract can enforce its terms. In the UK, this was abolished with legislation in 1999, but it may still exist in whatever law governs the settlement agreement - not sure if it's New York or somewhere else. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Priti priti priti Patel Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Lofarl said: Can you be subject to a contract like this one without your knowledge or consent? Seems to be Andrew would have to have known about this deal or he would not be party to it. Answered this directly above Edited January 3, 2022 by Priti priti priti Patel 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 Andrew’s lawyers still claiming that the action is “baseless”. If it’s baseless why are they trying to hide behind an agreement between his accuser and Epstein? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 Did Andrew not claim to barely to know Jeff? That should mean game on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTG Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 5 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: Andrew’s lawyers still claiming that the action is “baseless”. If it’s baseless why are they trying to hide behind an agreement between his accuser and Epstein? Suspect they're going for whatever option shuts the whole thing down most quickly. If the agreement does that then that won't stop them from denying everything - they'll just say they had no case to answer. Otherwise, they may need to go into court to show the action is baseless. The UK establishment at all levels will not want this going into a courtroom. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 1 minute ago, HTG said: Suspect they're going for whatever option shuts the whole thing down most quickly. If the agreement does that then that won't stop them from denying everything - they'll just say they had no case to answer. Otherwise, they may need to go into court to show the action is baseless. The UK establishment at all levels will not want this going into a courtroom. Agree with that; I hope there’s enough in the US who, for whatever reason, will follow through. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 Morgan turning on him as well. Only yer Rangers supporters and Lex will be left championing the nonce.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, Theroadlesstravelled said: Morgan turning on him as well. Only yer Rangers supporters and Lex will be left championing the nonce.. Has Morgan issued his learned judgement on Assange yet? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermik Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: Agree with that; I hope there’s enough in the US who, for whatever reason, will follow through. I reckon Prince Andrew has followed through a few times since this happened. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 1 minute ago, supermik said: I reckon Prince Andrew has followed through a few times since this happened. Nah, he’s not sweating either. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btb Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 (edited) He certainly looks to be sweating in this photo taken in, erm, 2001... +5 Lawyers for Prince Andrew's accuser are demanding he hand over any documents which explain why he doesn't sweat - his alibi for never having met her. He is pictured at a Trump nightclub in 2001 Edited January 3, 2022 by btb 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartsOfficialMoaner Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 11 minutes ago, Theroadlesstravelled said: Morgan turning on him as well. Only yer Rangers supporters and Lex will be left championing the nonce.. Rhangers - Rhandy Ahandy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Raccoon Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 21 minutes ago, btb said: He certainly looks to be sweating in this photo taken outside Tramps (the nightclub in question) in 2001... +5 Lawyers for Prince Andrew's accuser are demanding he hand over any documents which explain why he doesn't sweat - his alibi for never having met her. He is pictured at a Trump nightclub in 2001 Cocaine is one hell of a drug 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Bert Raccoon said: Cocaine is one hell of a drug I wonder if his dealer is "by appointment" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 Pinning your hopes on a deal struck by your dead, convicted paedo mate. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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