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7 minutes ago, strichener said:

When I did modern studies it included a module on China that started in 1911 with the overthrow on the Qing dynasty.  Certainly wasn't restricted to post WWII.

Pretty sure we did the League of Nations too. 

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I'm a maths teacher. I'm pretty sure my history / modern studies teacher colleagues won't know the difference between a Maclaurin Expansion and a  Binomial Expansion.

But you would expect them to know the difference between statistics and geometry.
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1 hour ago, Gaz said:

I'm a maths teacher. I'm pretty sure my history / modern studies teacher colleagues won't know the difference between a Maclaurin Expansion and a  Binomial Expansion.

My point, which I'm (admittedly badly) trying to make, is that when people make claims such as this being the worst thing in modern history, I don't think they're meaning in the literal definition of modern history, which goes back about 500 years.

I think they're meaning since WW2. I don't think anyone truly believes this is worse than WW2. And my reason for thinking that is (as I've explained) WW2 is taught in history, and post-WW2 is modern studies. I don't think that's too wild a thing to claim for anyone who isn't a historian.

You keep hearing people saying, it's like a disaster movie, with the strain 2, etc

Ie, as you say, since the second world war, life's been a bit of a cake walk and most people can't relate to anything bad happening (which pre ww2 was normal) without reference to a disaster movie

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Yeehah! We are absolute cowboys - aren't we? :fire2

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PHE says it is reasonable to mix the two approved vaccines in exceptional circumstances

“If your first dose is the Pfizer vaccine you should not be given the AstraZeneca vaccine for your second dose and vice versa. There may be extremely rare occasions where the same vaccine is not available, or where it is not known what vaccine the patient received.

“Every effort should be made to give them the same vaccine, but where this is not possible it is better to give a second dose of another vaccine than not at all.”

or where it is not known what vaccine the patient received - WTF

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1 hour ago, Gaz said:

I'm a maths teacher. I'm pretty sure my history / modern studies teacher colleagues won't know the difference between a Maclaurin Expansion and a  Binomial Expansion.

My point, which I'm (admittedly badly) trying to make, is that when people make claims such as this being the worst thing in modern history, I don't think they're meaning in the literal definition of modern history, which goes back about 500 years.

I think they're meaning since WW2. I don't think anyone truly believes this is worse than WW2. And my reason for thinking that is (as I've explained) WW2 is taught in history, and post-WW2 is modern studies. I don't think that's too wild a thing to claim for anyone who isn't a historian.

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Yeehah! We are absolute cowboys - aren't we? default_2guns.gif
PHE says it is reasonable to mix the two approved vaccines in exceptional circumstances

“If your first dose is the Pfizer vaccine you should not be given the AstraZeneca vaccine for your second dose and vice versa. There may be extremely rare occasions where the same vaccine is not available, or where it is not known what vaccine the patient received.

“Every effort should be made to give them the same vaccine, but where this is not possible it is better to give a second dose of another vaccine than not at all.”

or where it is not known what vaccine the patient received - WTF
This vaccine roll out is going to be a monumental f**k up, you just know it. Barely started to vaccinate the population and you get the feeling the wheels are already starting to come off. I hope I'm wrong, I really do but the excitement and relief of the vaccines being approved has already evaporated
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3 minutes ago, Miguel Sanchez said:

I'm sure a qualified historian will be along any minute to properly define the term "modern history," don't worry lads.

Since you asked, I'd go with Hobsbawm in placing the 'modern' cut-off point for much of Europe in 1789 with the French Revolution getting fired up and the emergence of the 'nation' as an abstract political unit entirely distinct from the monarchy. Arguably the 1770s for the transatlantic world and much later than that for the bulk of Africa and Eurasia.

To experience an area still trapped in medieval savagery, try a day trip to Brechin.

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The teachers' unions statements are ridiculously weak and far, far too late in the day. Their workplace has never been a safe environment - nothing has fundamentally changed about this since August, yet the union representatives did f**k all about it.

The Imperial College gurus that the government love to wheel out to support restrictions claimed yesterday that the new variant will increase the R rate by 0.7. Given that SAGE estimated in the summer that schools alone contribute 0.4 to transmission rates then it is clear that they cannot be opened without leading to an exponential growth in cases. So will the governments actually follow The Science?

The obsession with cobbling together back of a fag packet distance learning activities is entirely the wrong approach as well. If we seriously value education then there should be no instruction of any kind until the vaccinations kick in. They can catch up on the lost instruction time at weekends and over the summer instead.

A public health crisis should not play second fiddle to your two weeks in the Algarve in July. It's really that straightforward.

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