Todd_is_God Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 7 minutes ago, welshbairn said: If we only test symptomatic people it will go through the roof! I touched on this the other day, but now that we have vaccines and a fully open society, "test positivity rate" is a completely pointless, arbitrary statistic. Like you say, if we were actually interesting in ditching the covid hysteria and took the rational approach in only testing people who were ill enough to require medical treatment, then the positivity rate would rocket. If we tested absolutely everyone every day it would fall through the floor. I'd love to know the basis behind the magical 5% figure. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 Gonna take a while to get to 100k 200k 300k cases per day at this rate! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 To be fair to the likes of Ferguson, he did claim that the wave would likely plateau across September, and start to tail off in October, likely never to come round again. On that part, he looks correct. That he was absolutely miles out with the numbers is standard for him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 +1 for today’s tests right here. Now to wait and see if I’m part of the positivity problem or if I’m a negative nelly. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 20 minutes ago, Mark Connolly said: +1 for today’s tests right here. Now to wait and see if I’m part of the positivity problem or if I’m a negative nelly. Looking at past posts I don’t think you’re positivity has ever existed let alone been a problem. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 5 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: Looking at past posts I don’t think you’re positivity has ever existed let alone been a problem. This is extremely harsh. I'm positive about lots of things. For example, I'm positive there is an issue with your grammar in the quoted post. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Mark Connolly said: This is extremely harsh. I'm positive about lots of things. For example, I'm positive there is an issue with your grammar in the quoted post. It must be the most common grammatical error on here and I am one of the most common posters so it makes sense. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 27 minutes ago, oaksoft said: I'm assuming it's the highly predictable staffing crisis because of the constant obsessive testing and pinging I would imagine it's this and a general lack of staff which I think is subject to a big recruitment drive at the moment possibly to little to late. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effeffsee_the2nd Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 I would imagine it's this and a general lack of staff which I think is subject to a big recruitment drive at the moment possibly to little to late.Small price to pay for sending johnny foreigner packing WATP 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 Things in Florida got pretty bad, but it certainly didn't collapse. Good thing we have basically the entire population vaccinated, unlike them, so I'm sure the knicker wetting will stop any day now... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyrExile Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 1 hour ago, oaksoft said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-58530550 What on earth is going on here. There are less than 1000 patients in hospital across the whole of Scotland with covid. Why are ambulances taking 3 hours to hand over patients? Does anyone on here actually know why things are falling apart? The BBC article says everything but the reason for it. I'm assuming it's the highly predictable staffing crisis because of the constant obsessive testing and pinging but is it something else altogether? The main reason is staffing problems within the nhs. Whilst some departments have had it easy quite a few have been battered during covid. Many staff have left, retired early or are off sick currently. It's also a time where many take their holiday and this adds to the problem. A+E is also probably busier due to gp's hiding away and Nhs24 ducking calls. 1000 patients isn't an insignificant amount at a time of year when hospital are usually quieter. Almost all hospitals have cancelled elective surgery for the month with many of the staff involved being redeployed to assist with covid patients In normal times the Nhs runs on goodwill from staff to get by and isn't best suited to step up and deal with this well 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philpy Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 My uncle, who has dementia, fell down the stairs at a hotel in Pitlochry and split his head open. This was at 9pm. The ambulance turned up at 2am. I've seen a few reports of similar incidents over the last few weeks with ambulances taking hours to arrive. Given his condition, I'd have thought he would have been a priority, but apparently not. Poor sod is now on end of life palliative care. Fucking heartbreaking. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meldrew Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 5 minutes ago, philpy said: My uncle, who has dementia, fell down the stairs at a hotel in Pitlochry and split his head open. This was at 9pm. The ambulance turned up at 2am. I've seen a few reports of similar incidents over the last few weeks with ambulances taking hours to arrive. Given his condition, I'd have thought he would have been a priority, but apparently not. Poor sod is now on end of life palliative care. Fucking heartbreaking. i know of a young {well she's younger than me} woman, early 40's i think, she's had a shite last 12 months, had a leg off and god knows what else, her partner had to call for an ambulance last saturday evening and it never arrived until 5 am on the Sunday morning, i really don't know what the f**k is going on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 3 hours ago, oaksoft said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-58530550 What on earth is going on here. There are less than 1000 patients in hospital across the whole of Scotland with covid. Why are ambulances taking 3 hours to hand over patients? Does anyone on here actually know why things are falling apart? The BBC article says everything but the reason for it. I'm assuming it's the highly predictable staffing crisis because of the constant obsessive testing and pinging but is it something else altogether? The Ambulance service is on its knees because of cuts, covid has increased the pressure, it takes longer to get the ambulance ready for the next call, the crew has to suit up properly too, protocols in hospitals slow admission/handovers over. Mental health triage is so incredibly difficult because CPN’s will do absolutely everything they can to avoid seeing patients, so ambulance crews and other first responders are stuck with these cases for longer too. Its a perfect storm of fuckwittery. The actual paramedics and technicians etc are complete legends who do a brilliant job and deserve all the plaudits we can give them, but their managers and the government who have failed them tie an arm behind their back before we even kick a ball. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abdul_Latif Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 5 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: The actual paramedics and technicians etc are complete legends who do a brilliant job and deserve all the plaudits we can give them, but their managers and the government who have failed them Never a truer statement. They are incredible, yet deal with the abuse and assaults of the arseholes that think it’s their fault the ambulance took 5 hours to arrive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UsedToGoToCentralPark Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 My wife's a nurse and there just isn't enough staff, loads are off on maternity, sick or isolating, everyone's working extra but breaking point is near. Clinics are getting stopped apparently too redeploy the staff in wards.Doesn't seem to be due to Brexit in my wife's ward but that might be more of an issue in the city hospitals. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsforlife Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 It's as if the NHS is disgracefully underfunded and badly managed... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 It took a while, but as ever another stonking result for The Good Guys, and another crushing L for The Psycho Brigade. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 17 minutes ago, Elixir said: It took a while, but as ever another stonking result for The Good Guys, and another crushing L for The Psycho Brigade. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 My wife's a nurse and there just isn't enough staff, loads are off on maternity, sick or isolating, everyone's working extra but breaking point is near. Clinics are getting stopped apparently too redeploy the staff in wards.Doesn't seem to be due to Brexit in my wife's ward but that might be more of an issue in the city hospitals. Played golf with a guy last week whose wife is a staff nurse at Wishaw, they've lost 6 nurses who just couldn't handle it any more and left.The logistics are also problematic too. The ICU can handle 4 Covid patients max, if they end up with 5 they have to move them into a general ward, which means emptying the rest of the beds in there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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