Jacksgranda Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 19 hours ago, Todd_is_God said: They touched on this a wee while back. Something about T cells and exposure to other coronaviruses helping to build immunity / lessen the severity and slow the spread. It would certainly help explain why easing lockdown has not caused any spikes so far. Nobody has a clue about this disease - medical men, laymen, football fans on P&B... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 18 hours ago, Todd_is_God said: The most surprising development in the oxford vaccine saga is that they claim to be able to supply 2 billion doses by the end of October. To produce anything like that amount they must have already begun making and stockpiling huge quantities. Or they're telling lies. You choose. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 18 hours ago, Todd_is_God said: The most surprising development in the oxford vaccine saga is that they claim to be able to supply 2 billion doses by the end of October. To produce anything like that amount they must have already begun making and stockpiling huge quantities. It's not as massive a punt as it sounds, with these mRNA vaccines they use a proven template and adapt it, so they're fairly sure about it being safe before it's tested, and that it should work to some extent. It's how effective it is and for how long that is yet to be known. I write as somebody with zero expertise in this I should add. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distant Doonhamer Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 The most surprising development in the oxford vaccine saga is that they claim to be able to supply 2 billion doses by the end of October. To produce anything like that amount they must have already begun making and stockpiling huge quantities.I’m pretty sure AstraZeneca announced in June that they were producing large quantities of the vaccine from that time onwards ie starting large scale production in advance of knowing if the vaccine worked. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stumigoo Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 Not sure if this has been posted before but The Guardian has a nice little page on their site dedicated to ‘tracking’ potential vaccines and the current stage each team of researchers/lab is at - https://www.theguardian.com/world/ng-interactive/2020/jul/17/coronavirus-vaccine-tracker-how-close-are-we-to-a-vaccine 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aladdin Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 Not sure if this has been posted before but The Guardian has a nice little page on their site dedicated to ‘tracking’ potential vaccines and the current stage each team of researchers/lab is at - https://www.theguardian.com/world/ng-interactive/2020/jul/17/coronavirus-vaccine-tracker-how-close-are-we-to-a-vaccineI'm quite hopeful a vaccine will be available at the start of next year. The amount of money and effort poured into this seems to be yielding some positive results. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btb Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 The three stages in testing are Safety Effectiveness Dosage presumably during the pandemic drug companies are being financed to produce before the regular process has been completed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 Going to feel so smug not taking the vaccine when vT ends up infected with the cordyceps virus from The Last of Us 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thereisalight.. Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 (edited) Another thing that puts me off the vaccine is how involved the “Gates Foundation” is with it. Not that I believe in the conspiracy theory about him microchipping every one before anyone thinks that Edited July 18, 2020 by Thereisalight.. -3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post craigkillie Posted July 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, Thereisalight.. said: Another thing that puts me off the vaccine is how involved the “Gates Foundation” is with it. Not that I believe in the conspiracy theory about him microchipping every one before anyone thinks that Why would that put you off? It hardly seems surprising that a foundation set up explicitly to fund global public health programmes might decide that it's a good idea to fund a vaccine for the biggest global public health challenge of our lifetime. 22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 3 hours ago, Thereisalight.. said: Another thing that puts me off the vaccine is how involved the “Gates Foundation” is with it. Not that I believe in the conspiracy theory about him microchipping every one before anyone thinks that Absolute zoomer city 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 Barcelona looking like its going back into lockdown....ffs 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 No deaths today in Scotland but cases were 21, quite distributed over the country. A delay in reporting from previous days or a genuine 24 hour increase? I guess it was alaays going to be the case that significant reopening would lead to some degree of increase in cases and if were real and in the order of the 20 something figures weve seen so far we'll have done really well I think. Nothing to be immediately concerned about, but worth keeping an eye on over the next wee or so. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwullie Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 4 hours ago, Thereisalight.. said: Another thing that puts me off the vaccine is how involved the “Gates Foundation” is with it. Not that I believe in the conspiracy theory about him microchipping every one before anyone thinks that So what do you believe then? Why does that put you off? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmic Joe Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 19 minutes ago, renton said: No deaths today in Scotland but cases were 21, quite distributed over the country. A delay in reporting from previous days or a genuine 24 hour increase? I guess it was alaays going to be the case that significant reopening would lead to some degree of increase in cases and if were real and in the order of the 20 something figures weve seen so far we'll have done really well I think. Nothing to be immediately concerned about, but worth keeping an eye on over the next wee or so. Hopefully a timely reminder to everyone to continue to take precautions. Wear face coverings, exercise social distancing, good personal hygiene, be sensible, follow the guidance 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 4 hours ago, Thereisalight.. said: Another thing that puts me off the vaccine is how involved the “Gates Foundation” is with it. Not that I believe in the conspiracy theory about him microchipping every one before anyone thinks that Fucking hell. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 4 hours ago, Thereisalight.. said: Another thing that puts me off the vaccine is how involved the “Gates Foundation” is with it. Not that I believe in the conspiracy theory about him microchipping every one before anyone thinks that *inhales sharply through teeth* 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 10 minutes ago, Melanius Mullarkey said: Fucking hell. I know. Imagine doubting the microchip thing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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gav-ffc Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 1 hour ago, renton said: No deaths today in Scotland but cases were 21, quite distributed over the country. A delay in reporting from previous days or a genuine 24 hour increase? I guess it was alaays going to be the case that significant reopening would lead to some degree of increase in cases and if were real and in the order of the 20 something figures weve seen so far we'll have done really well I think. Nothing to be immediately concerned about, but worth keeping an eye on over the next wee or so. Over 16k tests done yesterday including myself and all our residents in our place. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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