VladimirMooc Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 11 minutes ago, Arch Stanton said: Far be it from me to judge someone from their Twitter bio but can’t help but feel this chap might be in with a shout for a Didn’t Happen of the Year Award. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aubrey Maturin Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 12 minutes ago, gav-ffc said: Over 16k tests done yesterday including myself and all our residents in our place. That's a very important point, testing has been ramped up massively so no surprise there is more. If we can keep testing and isolating while following guidelines then we get back to some sort of normality earlier. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
engelbert_humperdink Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 20 minutes ago, gav-ffc said: Over 16k tests done yesterday including myself and all our residents in our place. Miniscule numbers then. Positive news but the pessimists will no doubt find a negative spin 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 (edited) On 18/07/2020 at 10:34, Bairnardo said: Got it.... So it's safe cos money? No, that's the reason why the immense resources of the industry are being thrown at producing a vaccine. That you think that having a faster turnaround time is somehow a safety flaw rather than the entire fucking point of the exercise is moronic. Quote Could it be that the potential side effects of vaccines are rare because vaccines are subject to years of testing and development? Perhaps you could enlighten us as to your theory on this first: which component part of the vaccine is more likely to be unsafe as a result of current efforts? Be extremely specific. You seem to think that they're just cobbling something up in a backstreet meth lab, as opposed to applying already proven processes to produce viral vaccines. Quote As for the last bit, if the worlds foremost specialist on vaccines came and told me something, anything in the world of medicine was "100%" I would take him to be an idiot, as I would most folk who dole out 100% assurances. Where do you imagine that leaves a ranting clown on a football forum? Except that I didn't issue out a 100% assurance about the safety of every single vaccine dose champ - try reading for the sake of comprehension. There is absolutely no reason to doubt that the already acknowledged and highly rare side effects of vaccinations will occur with global vaccination; that doesn't even remotely make it unsafe though, in the same way that all the vaccines that we currently have are safe. And I really couldn't care less whether you agree with this stance or not, because it is based on a straightforward understanding of the immense benefits brought to humanity by 200 years of successful vaccine science, while your hot take is based on nothing more than your bloviating 'gut feelings'. Which are - as ever - irrelevant. Edited July 19, 2020 by vikingTON 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 47 minutes ago, virginton said: No, that's the reason why the immense resources of the industry are being thrown at producing a vaccine. That you think that having a faster turnaround time is somehow a safety flaw rather than the entire fucking point of the exercise is moronic. Perhaps you could enlighten us as to your theory on this first: which component part of the vaccine is more likely to be unsafe as a result of current efforts? Be extremely specific. You seem to think that they're just cobbling something up in a backstreet meth lab, as opposed to applying already proven processes to produce viral vaccines. Except that I didn't issue out a 100% assurance about the safety of every single vaccine dose champ - try reading for the sake of comprehension. There is absolutely no reason to doubt that the already acknowledged and highly rare side effects of vaccinations will occur with global vaccination; that doesn't even remotely make it unsafe though, in the same way that all the vaccines that we currently have are safe. And I really couldn't care less whether you agree with this stance or not, because it is based on a straightforward understanding of the immense benefits brought to humanity by 200 years of successful vaccine society, while your hot take is based on nothing more than your bloviating 'gut feelings'. Which are - as ever - irrelevant. Irrelevant..... Quite. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dysartrovers Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 It's not actually though. My mate stays there and not happening yet. Numbers have gotten worse but not locked down Barcelona looking like its going back into lockdown....ffs 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gav-ffc Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 3 hours ago, engelbert_humperdink said: Miniscule numbers then. Positive news but the pessimists will no doubt find a negative spin Testing numbers seem to either be 4/6k or 14/16k and no in between. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1885 Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 Boris saying in the daily telegraph hes no more likely to use a national lockdown again than he is to use the nuclear deterrent. Some boy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
engelbert_humperdink Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Stinky Bone said: Covid 19. 19. 19 19 not 20. I think you are peddling knicker wetting pish, scientists are still discovering information about this virus. You have said that it is a novel virus, so you must recognise it is new. I cannot understand why you cannot accept that a vaccine rushed out would not have any side effects. You post a lot of shite on this forum, and so do I, but VT you have fucked this one. I think you should have a cup of tea and cake. In 1965 Vietnam seemed like just another foreign war 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 9 hours ago, Stinky Bone said: Covid 19. 19. 19 19 not 20. I think you are peddling knicker wetting pish, scientists are still discovering information about this virus. You have said that it is a novel virus, so you must recognise it is new. I cannot understand why you cannot accept that a vaccine rushed out would not have any side effects. You post a lot of shite on this forum, and so do I, but VT you have fucked this one. I think you should have a cup of tea and cake. ^^^ word salad 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 11 hours ago, gav-ffc said: Testing numbers seem to either be 4/6k or 14/16k and no in between. The extra 10k ish tests seem to come at the weekend, and are almost 100% mobile tests. With these not being handled by the NHS in Scotland is it possible that there is a delay in some of these results filtering through from during the week? An earlier poster mentioned a delay but I don't remember what they said. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MP_MFC Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 I'd say it's likely to be that and or Thursday / Friday is when they do the routine screening in care homes etc and these pick up, naturally, more cases.Would be interesting to see the breakdown of the positives by pillar 1 and 2 for Scotland and I guess the govt do which will guide how they react. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super_carson Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 Even the ultra cautious Leitch said yesterday it wasn’t much to be concerned about, given it is spread throughout the country and has come off the back of an increased number of tests. In a way, it shows the contact tracing is (probably) working. I’d be more interested in looking at the percentage of tests returning a positive, but the WHO classify anything under 5% as being under control - we are down at .6% IIRC. ETA - apparently the WHO parameters are less than 5% of tests being positive in total over a two week period. Not sure where we are with that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurkst Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 Interesting graphs, North America seems to have been following the same trend as Europe until last month, then 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 10 hours ago, Rob1885 said: Boris saying in the daily telegraph hes no more likely to use a national lockdown again than he is to use the nuclear deterrent. Some boy. It's not a deterrent if he has to use it. He is so unbelievably thick. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pcplum Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 5 minutes ago, Lurkst said: Interesting graphs, North America seems to have been following the same trend as Europe until last month, then Africa have done extremely well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 10 hours ago, Rob1885 said: Boris saying in the daily telegraph hes no more likely to use a national lockdown again than he is to use the nuclear deterrent. Some boy. Fully expecting both to happen within the next 28 days now tbh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 14 minutes ago, super_carson said: Even the ultra cautious Leitch said yesterday it wasn’t much to be concerned about, given it is spread throughout the country and has come off the back of an increased number of tests. In a way, it shows the contact tracing is (probably) working. I’d be more interested in looking at the percentage of tests returning a positive, but the WHO classify anything under 5% as being under control - we are down at .6% IIRC. Even better, we are 0.4% We've been under 1% since 20th June,and under 5% since 21st May 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmallo Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 9 minutes ago, Pcplum said: Africa have done extremely well. That graph clearly shows cases in Africa are growing exponentially. That would be like looking at a graph of cases in February and saying the US "have done extremely well". -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 Re: Testing figures. Does anybody know if these include people who are now undergoing regular testing? E.g., my mate works at Erskine and all their care and admin staff at all their homes are now being tested weekly. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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