Dunning1874 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 7 minutes ago, Henderson to deliver ..... said: The team on Thursday would have scooshed this. The team today created considerably more chances than the team on Thursday. It was let down by having a centre forward (an enforced change) who made a complete arse of three good chances, while two other chances were met with excellent saves. Put Dykes in that team for McBurnie with the other 10 being the same and we'd have had it wrapped up by half time. That has to be time up on McBurnie starting games. If you're being extremely charitable you could at least argue that he was involved in our build up play in the first half despite his sitters, but he was a complete liability in the second. He got 90 minutes to the detriment of the team to give him every opportunity to show something and he failed. If we're holding on to a one goal lead with Dykes unavailable he's worth a runout to shitfest the last five minutes, but when you need a goal he's actively a hindrance. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FifeSons Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 Will be keeping a close eye on the other results today. Czech Israel draw would be perfect. Be nice to see some of the Group B leaders drop points too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagyar 2nd Tier Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 1 minute ago, BingMcCrosby said: Do you support Scotland? Of course I do. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnoustie Young Guvnor Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 5 minutes ago, Highlandmagyar 2nd Tier said: No self loathing here, but a few posters on here are raging and ripping into the team. The optimism didnt last long. You can say whatever you want. We know what you are. And I genuinely pity you, I really do. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginaro Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 5 minutes ago, HuttonDressedAsLahm said: We need to the be the highest ranked League B team. We may have just thrown that away. One of the two highest ranked League B group winners, correct? Basically if we win the group, so long as two of the other League B winners - i.e. Austria/Norway, Russia/Hungary/Turkey, or Wales/Finland - finish first or second in their WC qualifying group then we'd take a play-off spot. I am also assuming that none of the League A winners finish third in the WC group... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordopolis Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 Seems like we can swap defenders without an obvious dip in quality, but with fwds its dykes or shite. In some respects that's not a bad place to be, given that 12 months ago we were fragile all over the pitch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonS Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, FifeSons said: Absolutely no way we deserved to lose that. Israel is a must win, not just to make sure we win the group but to give us a shot at being in the best two Group B winners. There's nothing specific about being in the best two League B group winner btw. The best two group winners in any League who haven't already qualified for the World Cup or the World Cup play-offs will get those spots. It might be that both of those spots end up with League A teams, or the worst group winner in League B might end up with one. We just don't know. What we do know is that we need to finish as high as possible. Edited November 15, 2020 by GordonS 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing.McCrosby Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 Just now, Highlandmagyar 2nd Tier said: Of course I do. Am I getting you mixed up with someone else? Are you not the guy that went golfing during the serbia game? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnoustie Young Guvnor Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 Just now, BingMcCrosby said: Am I getting you mixed up with someone else? Are you not the guy that went golfing during the serbia game? Same guy 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagyar 2nd Tier Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, BingMcCrosby said: Am I getting you mixed up with someone else? Are you not the guy that went golfing during the serbia game? I watched golf yes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jedi Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 On 13/11/2020 at 13:06, Jedi said: Would rest a good few for this one, and then bring out the 'full' team for Israel, if needed. Hopefully, the Czechs will draw with Israel anyway...so, ----------------------Marshall----------------------- -----------McKenna---Cooper---Considine------- --Palmer---------McLean---Jack------------------Tierney ------------------------Armstrong---------------------------- -----------------McBurnie--------Griffiths------------------- Israel game.... -----------------------Marshall--------------------------------- ---------McTominay---Gallagher---Tierney------------------- -SOD---------------McGinn---Jack---------------Robertson--- ------------------------McGregor--------------------------------- ------------------Christie--------Dykes---------------------------- Still think the team was the right selection for today, Thursday night must have been draining mentally and physically. We can now play the 'big' team for Wednesday night, and go all out for a win to seal the group. Still hoping for a Czech-Israel draw tonight to lessen the pressure, but that side should be good enough to get a win on Wednesday of need be. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing.McCrosby Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 Just now, Carnoustie Young Guvnor said: Same guy By any chance are you going to call him a "fandan" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonS Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 9 minutes ago, Gordopolis said: Tbf, a glance at the conga vid and the amount of booze on the tables suggests they were a wee bit more than "tipsy" The players also spoke of 3 hours sleep, 4 at best I know they were up late but I just don't believe they got steaming. I know it was a huge night but I can't see this management team allowing it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuttonDressedAsLahm Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, GordonS said: There's nothing specific about being in the best two League B group winner btw. The best two group winners in any League who haven't already qualified for the World Cup or the World Cup play-offs will get those spots. It might be that both of those spots end up with League A teams, or the worst group winner in League B might end up with one. We just don't know. What we do know is that we need to finish as high as possible. Well, yes. Losing 3 points from that match is all the harder to take because of the potential missed opportunity it represents. It also guarantees us Pot 3 for WC qualification, when there was still a chance of Pot 2. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FifeSons Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 1 minute ago, GordonS said: There's nothing specific about being in the best two League B group winner btw. The best two group winners in any League who haven't already qualified for the World Cup or the World Cup play-offs will get those spots. It might be that both of those spots end up with League A teams, or the worst group winner in League B might end up with one. We just don't know. What we do know is that we need to finish as high as possible. True, but it would be highly unlikely that any League A winner will not at least finish top two in the qualifiers. Also possible that the best League B winners could have already qualified, but being in the top two B winners would make it extremely likely that we get a play-off. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roman_bairn Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 Slovakia are ranked 37, above Scotland. Israel are ranked 88. They were only "horseshit" because Scotland made them appear so. And yet Israel managed to win in Slovakia.We didn’t incidentally.Tough game coming up..... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accies1874 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 Seems like we can swap defenders without an obvious dip in quality, but with fwds its dykes or shite. In some respects that's not a bad place to be, given that 12 months ago we were fragile all over the pitch.Considine on the right of the three was definitely a drop in quality. If McTominay gets injured/suspended then we need a right-footed player in there. I thought John Souttar was going to make that place his own but his calamity v Israel + always being injured has put a bit of a dampener on that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thruthenight Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 4 minutes ago, accies1874 said: 10 minutes ago, Gordopolis said: Seems like we can swap defenders without an obvious dip in quality, but with fwds its dykes or shite. In some respects that's not a bad place to be, given that 12 months ago we were fragile all over the pitch. Considine on the right of the three was definitely a drop in quality. If McTominay gets injured/suspended then we need a right-footed player in there. I thought John Souttar was going to make that place his own but his calamity v Israel + always being injured has put a bit of a dampener on that. Declan Gallagher used to play that role for Livi and I'm surprised he hasn't been given a chance there. I think he'd do a better job that Considine there 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accies1874 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 This might seem like a small-time attitude, but expecting a nation that recently got horsed against Kazakhstan and have had so many obituaries written for them over the past 18 months to suddenly get 16/18 points against teams ranked around them as well as qualify for the Euros is unfair. We've seen so much progress lately, have largely got results to reflect that and have an unbelievable chance of being in the same tier as the best sides in Europe. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 12 minutes ago, Dunning1874 said: when you need a goal he's actively a hindrance. Just to follow up on that, he has 14 caps - 7 starts, 7 sub appearances. In over 11 hours of football with McBurnie on the pitch, Scotland have scored one goal (McGinn v Russia). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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