Jambomo Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 2 hours ago, Savage Henry said: Is it? I think so. I at least think we are seeing some progress and are a much better team now than when Clarke took over. That’s not to say we are the finished article or that we can’t still improve a lot, just that we seem to be going in the right direction for once. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 44 minutes ago, Ian38018 said: Play-offs for the World Cup are not going to be a bun fight with another couple of diddy teams, as the Euro Play-offs were. There are going to be ten group runners-up, plus a pair of Nations League group winners scrapping for just 4 places. Qualifying by winning this group is going to be a far easier option than attempting to negotiate the play-offs by finishing second. I'm not sure this is really true. I'm not sure there will be a team better than Denmark in the play-offs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiegoDiego Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 I'm not sure this is really true. I'm not sure there will be a team better than Denmark in the play-offs.I'd love Spain to finish second after drawing at home to Greece last night. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salvo Montalbano Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 I'm not sure this is really true. I'm not sure there will be a team better than Denmark in the play-offs.Assuming the top seeds win their group (which isn't a given) you'd expect these nations to be in the play-offs: Switzerland, Wales, Poland, Sweden, Ukraine, Serbia, Turkey (although Norway are also in that group where Netherlands are top seeds), Slovakia and Romania. I think there's a decent case for about half them being at a similar level or better than Denmark? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian38018 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, craigkillie said: I'm not sure this is really true. I'm not sure there will be a team better than Denmark in the play-offs. Teams who will (probably) be in the play-offs Spain or Sweden Italy or Switzerland France or Ukraine Czech Republic, Wales or Belgium Holland, Turkey or Norway Russia or Croatia England or Poland Germany or Romania (plus a couple of Nations League group winners). Not sure I would fancy our chances emerging from that unscathed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Ted Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 3 hours ago, John Lambies Doos said: Moldova away gives me the fear Moldova are dug shite. If we don't pick up 6 points from them, we don't deserve to qualify. I'm not saying we will hammer them but we should win there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, Salvo Montalbano said: Assuming the top seeds win their group (which isn't a given) you'd expect these nations to be in the play-offs: Switzerland, Wales, Poland, Sweden, Ukraine, Serbia, Turkey (although Norway are also in that group where Netherlands are top seeds), Slovakia and Romania. I think there's a decent case for about half them being at a similar level or better than Denmark? Denmark are the top seeds in our group precisely because they're ranked above every single one of those teams. They got to the knockout stage of the last World Cup and finished ahead of England in their Nations League group. They were definitely one of the best possible top seeds we could have got, but they're still a very good team that will be very difficult to finish ahead of. I'd say you could have a case for Switzerland and Sweden being about as good as them from that group, but most of the rest you've named are nowhere near as good. We've seen Slovakia and Serbia recently and both of them are junk, and I'd definitely fancy our chances more against Wales, Poland, Ukraine and Romania too. Turkey I'm not sure about - they were rotten in the Nations League but did beat the Netherlands the other night. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, craigkillie said: Denmark are the top seeds in our group precisely because they're ranked above every single one of those teams. They got to the knockout stage of the last World Cup and finished ahead of England in their Nations League group. They were definitely one of the best possible top seeds we could have got, but they're still a very good team that will be very difficult to finish ahead of. I'd say you could have a case for Switzerland and Sweden being about as good as them from that group, but most of the rest you've named are nowhere near as good. We've seen Slovakia and Serbia recently and both of them are junk, and I'd definitely fancy our chances more against Wales, Poland, Ukraine and Romania too. Turkey I'm not sure about - they were rotten in the Nations League but did beat the Netherlands the other night. Netherlands are absolute shite these days 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 The Dutch appear to be going through their Eighties spell of qualifying for hee-haw, after their Seventies spell of almost winning the big prize twice. Put your money on them romping Euro 2024 now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insert Amusing Pseudonym Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 I think a lot of people mistake unspectacular for being average. Denmark are a very well drilled, exceedingly efficient team. They lose very few goals and hardly ever lose The fact they aren't great to watch doesn't count for that much in terms of how difficult they will be to beat. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Need2Speak2Caesar Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 Some people were whacking the Austrian's off because of their German based players. We started off by showing them too much respect and when we finally decided to play in the second half we were better than them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G51 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 17 hours ago, G51 said: He's been bad for Motherwell and even worse for Scotland. I'll be very interested to check his stats when they're uploaded. I'm pretty sure the only cross he completed tonight was the one for the goal, and that's only because the Austrian keeper bizarrely decided not to come for a ball that spent about half an hour in the air. When every attack down our right hand side is breaking down, then that's a major problem. Indeed, this turned out to be the case. 1 cross out of 5 was successful, and 1 dribble out of 5 was successful (it was the one when Alaba showed him inside and he put it out for a corner, so I think that's probably generous). 7/17 (41%) of "duels" won. Robertson on the other hand: 2/6 crossing, 3/4 dribbles, 13/21 (62%) duels. The groundsman at Hampden should cut the width of it by a third. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 I actually enjoyed watching the game last night. It has been a while. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scumjob Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Insert Amusing Pseudonym said: I think a lot of people mistake unspectacular for being average. Denmark are a very well drilled, exceedingly efficient team. They lose very few goals and hardly ever lose The fact they aren't great to watch doesn't count for that much in terms of how difficult they will be to beat. I quail at the thought of our attack trying to score against them. BUT We do have Grant Hanley. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordopolis Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 I think so. I at least think we are seeing some progress and are a much better team now than when Clarke took over. That’s not to say we are the finished article or that we can’t still improve a lot, just that we seem to be going in the right direction for once.I think the major difference now is that we're no longer a soft touch 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antiochas III Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 2 hours ago, G51 said: Indeed, this turned out to be the case. 1 cross out of 5 was successful, and 1 dribble out of 5 was successful (it was the one when Alaba showed him inside and he put it out for a corner, so I think that's probably generous). 7/17 (41%) of "duels" won. Robertson on the other hand: 2/6 crossing, 3/4 dribbles, 13/21 (62%) duels. The groundsman at Hampden should cut the width of it by a third. One of those crosses he failed at was the one Christie was fouled in the box but nothing was given. Of course that was his fault it wasn't completed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8MileBU Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 20 hours ago, Marshmallo said: Thank christ one of the better posters on football has turned up Indeed. Talking about football has never and your strong point @Marshmallo but you’ve had an utter ‘mare here. 20 hours ago, Jimi Shandrix said: Take two of these and have a lie down. You've had a shocker tonight. Boy’s mother got a clue and should be confined to the GN forum. Even then..... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewan14 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 3 hours ago, Scumjob said: I quail at the thought of our attack trying to score against them. BUT We do have Grant Hanley. and Super J M 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordopolis Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 I'm.still trying to work out whether I'm pleased with our draw last night or not.Before the game I thought it was a must win but was going to be really hard. I envisaged Alaba rampaging through us. In truth he was pretty average. They weren't really stand out at all, in fact. So in that respect it does feel like 2 points missed.*But*, given how shaky and unconvincing we were for 60 mins, the fact we ended the game with a bit of a barnstorming performance and bullied our way back to parity, it feels like a moral victory, or a vindication of the squad spirit.Happy and frustrated at the same time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropy Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 2 hours ago, Antiochas III said: One of those crosses he failed at was the one Christie was fouled in the box but nothing was given. Of course that was his fault it wasn't completed The cross that McGinn flicked backwards, does that count? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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