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6 hours ago, scottsdad said:

When I was a kid, we used to get a barber coming to our house. He'd bring his stuff, cut our hair and leave. He was married with kids. 

My dad arrested him one day in public toilets in Stirling for hiring rent boys. When he told my mum, and I overheard him, this was the first time I'd ever heard the phrase. 

After that we went to barber shops again. 

Oh boy.  That was a close shave.

Sorry. 😛

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Saw some headline this morning on of those street digital screens that claimed Sunak is trying to stop GPs being able to sign folk off work.

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28 minutes ago, DA Baracus said:

Saw some headline this morning on of those street digital screens that claimed Sunak is trying to stop GPs being able to sign folk off work.

Its on the radio just now.

They want to change the fit note situation, they are alleging that GPs are repeating notes without speaking to people.

Lets be honest, its just (yet) another howl into the abyss from a party struggling for relevance and who will soon be consigned to the shitcan of history.

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The long predicted Tory assault on the sick and disabled incoming.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68853166

It appears to be only in England, but I'm not entirely certain.

Highlights from the article... 

"Prime Minister Rishi Sunak has set out plans to end what he called Britain's "sick note culture" if he wins the next general election.

He said "work is good for people" and he was worried benefits had become a "lifestyle choice".

The plans include fit for work notes away from GPs to "specialist work and health professionals" in England."

The list of those groups the Tories have targeted for the vampiric press to go after is enormous.  Now it's the sick and disabled.

Any suggestions of more help is of course welcome, but any additional support has to be in place first, it's staff cannot under any circumstances be given performance targets rewarding "getting claimants off" benefits, and the new arrangements must be demonstrated to work in the interests of claimants before changes in benefits are implemented.

For this new system to work, there would have to be tens of thousands of currently unemployed "specialist work and health professionals" knocking around - where are they?

Almost looking forward to the next time a Tory canvasser comes to my door. Almost.

 

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17 minutes ago, Salt n Vinegar said:

For this new system to work, there would have to be tens of thousands of currently unemployed "specialist work and health professionals" knocking around - where are they?

They'll do exactly what they did the last time, and hire some consultancy firm who then go and hire a load of semi-retired physiotherapists, dieticians, aromatherapists and so on, who will give you a ten minute Q&A session and conclude your Consultant Oncologist or Psychiatrist has totally fabricated your life-long diagnosis off the back of nothing at all.

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1 minute ago, ICTChris said:

I'm going to make an outlandish prediction on this - it won't happen.

Well, as it only arises if the Tories win the next general election, you're probably right.  It will however unleash the Maily Dail, Torygraph, and other right wing "commentators" on the sick and vulnerable, which is absolutely not what they need.

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18 minutes ago, ICTChris said:

I'm going to make an outlandish prediction on this - it won't happen.

 

13 minutes ago, Salt n Vinegar said:

Well, as it only arises if the Tories win the next general election, you're probably right.  It will however unleash the Maily Dail, Torygraph, and other right wing "commentators" on the sick and vulnerable, which is absolutely not what they need.

Its very obviously aimed at the GB News consuming, Daily Mail reading, over 70s who are the Tories core voters these days.

It will generate a few days headlines and then disappear - even Starmers Labour wont carry this one into the next session.....................

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3 hours ago, Leith Green said:

Its on the radio just now.

They want to change the fit note situation, they are alleging that GPs are repeating notes without speaking to people.

Lets be honest, its just (yet) another howl into the abyss from a party struggling for relevance and who will soon be consigned to the shitcan of history.

I’m astounded by that assertion.

Don't get me wrong, I wish it were true but it’s not.

Labour will form the next government, and possibly the one after that, but then it will be a return to the Tories who will be even more right-wing than anything under May, Johnson or Sunak - probably more a Truss style Conservative Party.

 

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Quick question... in the horrifying event of a Tory government, would these measures apply in Scotland?

Health is devolved, some social security benefits are devolved, but statutory sick pay isn't.  The BBC article specifies England.

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Are you not already supposed to get notes saying what you can do? We’ve had people signed off to come back part time only or limited hours before. Maybe that’s because they wanted to come back ?

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My wife was signed off in January with a compressed nerve in her neck. She's on a phased return at the moment (last week, 2 hours per day; this week 4 hours, next week 6 and then back full time). The phased return is the suggestion of Occupational Health - a practicing GP who does this as well. 

She was signed off by a GP in the first instance, and since then by the GP practice's physiotherapist. 

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1 hour ago, Salt n Vinegar said:

The long predicted Tory assault on the sick and disabled incoming.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68853166

It appears to be only in England, but I'm not entirely certain.

Highlights from the article... 

"Prime Minister Rishi Sunak has set out plans to end what he called Britain's "sick note culture" if he wins the next general election.

He said "work is good for people" and he was worried benefits had become a "lifestyle choice".

The plans include fit for work notes away from GPs to "specialist work and health professionals" in England."

The list of those groups the Tories have targeted for the vampiric press to go after is enormous.  Now it's the sick and disabled.

Any suggestions of more help is of course welcome, but any additional support has to be in place first, it's staff cannot under any circumstances be given performance targets rewarding "getting claimants off" benefits, and the new arrangements must be demonstrated to work in the interests of claimants before changes in benefits are implemented.

For this new system to work, there would have to be tens of thousands of currently unemployed "specialist work and health professionals" knocking around - where are they?

Almost looking forward to the next time a Tory canvasser comes to my door. Almost.

 

Saw a bit of this on Sky News. He at one stage said it would reduce immigration as once people currently not working were "supported" back in into work they would fill job vacancies. Did not answer the where are these health experts question.

You missed they also intend people not back into work after 12 months would have their claims closed. Very compassionate and supportive if you have mental health problems!

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4 hours ago, DA Baracus said:

Saw some headline this morning on of those street digital screens that claimed Sunak is trying to stop GPs being able to sign folk off work.

They've worked to take medical professionals out of the decisions regarding disability for a long time, so this is the next logical step. It'll be being floated to put the shits up everyone who works for a living (and isn't thick enough to believe that they'll never be affected by illness) so that we'll feel relieved by whatever halfway measure the Tories/Labour decide to implement in the name of "modernisation". Just the tip instead of a full forcible rogering.

As ever, the aim is to take away the wealthy's responsibility for anything to do with the paupers, and everything points to them continuing to succeed in this aim for the foreseeable future.

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Sorry, but the shifting the discussion onto sick people is a nice little diversion tactic from Rishi to create headlines.

Have the media really already moved on from a story of a sitting MP being essentially kidnapped for ransom within 36 hours?? I mean, I know we live in Batshit crazy times when it comes to politics, but if you pause for a moment, that is quite staggering that there isnt massive investigations as to who these people were and why? Megan Markle farts in the bath and the Daily Mail claim she is causing icebergs to melt, surely this story doesn't just drop down the news?

If this happened in Columbia you might half ignore it, but a sitting MP from the governing party has been kidnapped in the last few months and the PM is talking policy (cuntish policy, yes), but still policy.

Mental. 

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9 minutes ago, Theyellowbox said:

Sorry, but the shifting the discussion onto sick people is a nice little diversion tactic from Rishi to create headlines.

Have the media really already moved on from a story of a sitting MP being essentially kidnapped for ransom within 36 hours?? I mean, I know we live in Batshit crazy times when it comes to politics, but if you pause for a moment, that is quite staggering that there isnt massive investigations as to who these people were and why? Megan Markle farts in the bath and the Daily Mail claim she is causing icebergs to melt, surely this story doesn't just drop down the news?

If this happened in Columbia you might half ignore it, but a sitting MP from the governing party has been kidnapped in the last few months and the PM is talking policy (cuntish policy, yes), but still policy.

Mental. 

Also, the Peter Murrell arrest yesterday was another good deflection from MP kidnapping story.

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I watched the birth of the Antichrist at the cinema yesterday.

Clearly yer man getting kidnapped was designed to draw attention away from the arrival of Tory-in-chief Damian Thorn.

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