Russian invasion of Ukraine

[RandomGuy.]

12 minutes ago, TommyDickFingers said:

A nuke that is not a nuke ? what witchcraft is this?

Damage to the area hit is equivalent to dropping a nuke, you just don't get the fallout after.

I don't know if they're classed as "illegal" or not tbh, but it's more likely he chucks that at Kiev than a Nuke. He's already used it against Syria.

I'm fairly sure using it was behind his "devastation your people have never seen before comment", rather than using nuclear weapons, as it apparently disintegrates any living thing within 300 metres of the impact site and can damage internal organs in people over 1km away due to the shock wave.

Edited March 1, 2022 by RandomGuy.

[Zen Archer (Raconteur)]

 

 

[TommyDickFingers]

2 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said:

Damage to the area hit is equivalent to dropping a nuke, you just don't get the fallout after.

I don't know if they're classed as "illegal" or not tbh, but it's more likely he chucks that at Kiev than a Nuke. He's already used it against Syria.

 Anything with enough energy could be compared to a nuke. If you mean the "Father of all bombs" its a thermobaric weapon, unconfirmed reports it was used once in Syria, unlike the US "mother of all bombs" used in Afghanistan and available all over YouTube.

It would make 1 hell of bang if it exists and they could find a plane big enough to push it out the back of no doubt.

Here's a handy visual indication of yields compared to the Beirut blast ( which I assume you have seen)

BOOOOOOOOOOOOM

Don't look up the yields of Russian current multiple warhead ICBM, you wont sleep.

 

 

 

[Florentine_Pogen]

Russian tank column outside Kyiv 'is 40 miles long' – report

Satellite images taken on Monday show a Russian military convoy north of Kyiv that stretches for about 40 miles (64 km) in an area north-west of Kyiv. It is substantially longer than the 17 miles (27 km) reported earlier in the day, according to the US company Maxar, Reuters reports.

[HibeeJibee]

2 hours ago, Jedi said:

17 mile long convoy of Russian armour now approached Kiev..doesn't sound good.

Correction...

40-mile ...

[welshbairn]

FT are freeing the paywall for Ukraine like they did a bit for Covid. Not sure about where this writer is coming from, but she gives a quick historical summary of how we've got to where we are from her mainly American perspective. 

https://www.ft.com/content/742f15fc-675a-4622-b022-cbec444651cf

P.S. For balance here is Tass's press review, with a preview above the link..

Quote

On February 27, the fourth day of the military operation in Ukraine is underway, the forces of the Donbass republics and Russia resumed their offensive, Izvestia stated. Some three more settlements were liberated in the Donetsk People's Republic. According to experts, the main goal of the operation, which is the isolation and encirclement of the Kiev regime’s forces and nationalist groups concentrated in Donbass, is about to be completed. Its implementation is going to seriously undermine Kiev’s reserves. The dire straits that the Ukrainian leadership is facing, is corroborated by the fact that Kiev has agreed to hold talks in Belarus, the experts note.

Currently, the Kiev regime’s units in Donbass are actually cut off, and this is the most combat-ready part of the Ukrainian army, according to Deputy Director at the Center for Comprehensive European and International Studies, National Research University Higher School of Economics Vasily Kashin. "The encirclement operation is becoming the crucial one, and we are about to complete it," he told Izvestia. "If these units are prevented from retreating deep into the country, Ukraine will lose its main reserve, and, on the contrary, huge forces will be freed up in our country. These include the troops of the Lugansk and Donetsk People’s Republics.

Denazification and demilitarization are the main objective, so the Russian forces are carrying out it all across Ukraine, the expert said. We need to defeat its army, destroy the military infrastructure and conduct political reforms. Solving such tasks can take three weeks, a month or even longer. "Assessing the situation is challenging due to the growing number of fakes. And the Ukrainian Defense Ministry was caught more than once in outright and deliberate lies," the expert noted.

 

https://tass.com/pressreview/1412885

Edited March 1, 2022 by welshbairn

[welshbairn]

Tass is great for clarifications of Putin's "hints" btw.

Quote

MOSCOW, February 27. /TASS/. In response to aggressive statements in the West Russian President Vladimir Putin has issued orders to introduce what he described as a "special service regime" in the Russian army’s deterrence force.

"Top officials in NATO’s leading countries have been making aggressive statements against our country. For this reason, I give orders to the defense minister and chief of the General Staff to introduce a special combat duty regime in the Russian army’s deference forces," Putin said at a meeting with Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu and Chief of the General Staff Valery Gerasimov in the Kremlin on Sunday.

Putin stressed that the Western countries were also taking unfriendly actions against Russia in the economic sphere.

"I am referring to the illegitimate sanctions, which are very well-known to everybody," he added.

The meeting took place against a backdrop of Russia’s special military operation in Ukraine, which Moscow began in response to a request for assistance from the leaders of the Donbass republics.

Strategic deterrence forces
The strategic deterrence forces’ task is to deter aggression against Russia and its allies, and also to defeat an aggressor in a war by using various types of weapons, including nuclear ones. The deterrence forces incorporate the Strategic Offensive Force (SOF) and Strategic Defensive Force (SDF). The strategic nuclear potential constitutes the backbone of the SOF, armed with intercontinental missiles and aircraft, including high accuracy long-range weapons. The strategic nuclear potential includes the Strategic Missile Force. The SOF also includes the strategic conventional dual-purpose force - strategic and long-range bombers and also submarines, surface ships and naval missile-carrying naval aircraft carrying high-accuracy long-range weapons.

The SDF’s key components are combat-ready forces and means of the aerospace defense, such as the missile attack warning system, the system for monitoring outer space and the missile defense, space defense and air defense.

 

 

[GiGi]

16 hours ago, ICTChris said:

Lomachenko has also joined territorial defence units, leaving his training camp in Greece.

Lomachenko is one of these c***s that seems to be brilliant at everything he tries. Boxing, dancing, football etc so he's probably a crack shot with a rifle as well. Good luck marching onto his turf.

[Arabdownunder]

5 hours ago, Lex said:

The Nuke thing is just bombastic rhetoric. Any kind of nuclear deployment by Russia means Russia instantly loses this war, and Putin knows that.

 

Normally would agree, but a couple of weeks ago many people (including some on here) took threats of a full-scale invasion as bombastic rhetoric.

Also, nice word play

[Melanius Mullarkey]

7 hours ago, alta-pete said:

Good luck with that. 

I knew Sevco would be behind this in some capacity. Disgusting.

[Detournement]

The reporting seems a bit more realistic today already in terms of the Russian advance. Unless NATO is going to intervene then it won't be long until Ukraine has to accept terms. 

[TheScarf]

I’m guessing the peace talks aren’t going so well. 

[throbber]

Just now, TheScarf said:

I’m guessing the peace talks aren’t going so well. 

I don’t think Ukraine will have much leverage when there’s a 40 mile military convoy approaching their capital anyway.

[doulikefish]

Taiwan joining in with banning Russian banks from Swift.

Worrying thing about this column is that they are driving down a road with no obvious tactical formation which is a clear sign that they control the skies over Ukraine.

Hopefully ict Chris provides us with some drone footage today of the said column getting bombed 

[renton]

It seems likely that the Ukranians won't just surrender when that Russian convoy starts to deploy around Kyiv, and Russian armour isn't going to have a happy time in urban combat. Nethertheless, even if all that Western aid is in UKR hands you'd expect Kyiv to finally fall.

The West needs to bit the bullet on Oil/Gas sanctions now. It'll still take months to make an impact I suspect but better now than later.

[doulikefish]

2 minutes ago, renton said:

It seems likely that the Ukranians won't just surrender when that Russian convoy starts to deploy around Kyiv, and Russian armour isn't going to have a happy time in urban combat. Nethertheless, even if all that Western aid is in UKR hands you'd expect Kyiv to finally fall.

The West needs to bit the bullet on Oil/Gas sanctions now. It'll still take months to make an impact I suspect but better now than later.

Going by what the news channels are showing I don't think I've seen any heavy armour pictured in the column but surely it's there somewhere or more likely deployed either side to protect it 

[Newbornbairn]

Reports that the Mig 29s from Poland may be able to use Polish airfields to operate from. 

 

[ICTChris]

Massive rocket and missile strikes on Kharkiv overnight. Terrible devastation there.

[RandomGuy.]

14 minutes ago, ICTChris said:

Massive rocket and missile strikes on Kharkiv overnight. Terrible devastation there.

Just missed the government building apparently. 

 

[djchapsticks]

Listening to radio earlier and a US general saying that the best course of action now is for Zelenskyy to yield and end this before it gets any worse as Russians won't make the same mistake of underestimating the resistance a second time.