Bairnardo Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 36 minutes ago, throbber said: But you are not taking up a new hobby or embarking on any sort of difficult task you are just not consuming alcohol. Why would you need to feel part of anything for doing that? If you are wanting to knock the alcohol on the head why not just abstain from going out to the pub with mates until the month is over? I don’t know why other people have to come into the equation at all. Tbf, I think you ought to point your ire at society for making the consumption of alcohol this big thing in the first place. That's the real issue. That having a drink, or not, has been made much greater than the sum if its parts in this country for as long as anyone alive can remember. One follows the other. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 52 minutes ago, throbber said: But you are not taking up a new hobby or embarking on any sort of difficult task you are just not consuming alcohol. Why would you need to feel part of anything for doing that? If you are wanting to knock the alcohol on the head why not just abstain from going out to the pub with mates until the month is over? I don’t know why other people have to come into the equation at all. That can be difficult for some 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Raccoon Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 I''m not going to comment on whether Dry January is a good thing or a bad thing but I'd bet at least 50% will miss the point and post about how shit faced they get on the first of February 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy the Dug Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 4 minutes ago, throbber said: Do you not think progress has been made in the last 20 years since you were a young adult? It’s nowhere near glamourised/normalised and dangled in front of todays youths like it was back then. I read a report on Sky News yesterday that said almost one in four adults aged between 18 and 24 are either tee total or rarely drink at all. So I would be inclined to agree with you that massive changes have been made in the last 20 years. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 7 minutes ago, throbber said: Do you not think progress has been made in the last 20 years since you were a young adult? It’s nowhere near glamourised/normalised and dangled in front of todays youths like it was back then. Yeah but in general attitudes towards drink in this country inflate it towards something it doesn't need to be. Progress has been made in the younger generation. Likely not so much in ours and older though. What's universally true though, is that social media is w**k. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velo army Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 1 hour ago, throbber said: But you are not taking up a new hobby or embarking on any sort of difficult task you are just not consuming alcohol. Why would you need to feel part of anything for doing that? If you are wanting to knock the alcohol on the head why not just abstain from going out to the pub with mates until the month is over? I don’t know why other people have to come into the equation at all. Aye I think you're lacking in some insight as to the nature of addiction and underestimating how hardwired we are for connection. You're definitely underestimating how difficult folk find it to abstain from drink. Also, there are myriad examples of support groups for alcoholics, as well as stuff like weight watchers. Overeating, like alcohol over-consumption is a complex behaviour with deep and powerful roots. It's not enough just to decide that we're not going to drink as the roots of the behaviour are largely unconscious and are often responded to attachment wounds. It makes absolute sense that people would seek out fellowship when embarking on such an undertaking. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Davy the Dug said: I read a report on Sky News yesterday that said almost one in four adults aged between 18 and 24 are either tee total or rarely drink at all. So I would be inclined to agree with you that massive changes have been made in the last 20 years. 18-24 year old are known for their honesty. Take cocaine as an example, never in my life (I'm 35) have I seen or been around so many folk 'on it'. I'll bet 90% of them never take it or rarely do. Edited January 5 by Derry Alli 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy the Dug Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 1 minute ago, Derry Alli said: 18-24 year old are known for their honesty. Take cocaine as an example, never in my life (I'm 35) have I seen or been around so many folk 'on it'. I'll bet 90% of them never take it or rarely do. I don’t really see why you wouldn’t be honest about something like that at 18, I really do believe that the mindset of the Gen Z generation has changed. Never has there been more options for AF drinks when out socialising. 20 years ago when I was in this age category the main option to socialise with friends was the pub or clubbing. Now, you can go to a whole range of places, Top Golf, various mini golf places and that dart place that has recently opened (these are three I could just think of off the top of my head). Times have changed, and it’s only a good thing in my opinion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 10 minutes ago, throbber said: I don’t think the 18-24 year olds that are being asked in these polls will have any reason to lie they are probably doing them anonymously. Any time you go to the Dr, or did at that age - were you honest about how much you drunk? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beesher Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 A lot of it for me is to alleviate boredom. I find a lot of social occasions boring af but if you’re drunk it is literally impossible to be bored. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandon Par Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 2 hours ago, beesher said: A lot of it for me is to alleviate boredom. I find a lot of social occasions boring af but if you’re drunk it is literally impossible to be bored. For about five or six years I binned drinking but have had a drink at social occasions over the last six months or so and managed not to get too smashed or caused any bother etc beyond upsetting a group of folk by telling them how shite ABBA are. Not good for sleep, immune system etc though. Really struggled to even go to some social events without a drink so I’ve maybe found a compromise where I can have a drink in special occasions and not randomly booze at home etc. Only took 30 years of training to achieve what seems like a reasonable position. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurph Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 15 hours ago, jimbaxters said: If it takes a gimmicky initiative to stop you drinking alcohol for 31 days then there's probably the makings of a problem there already. I don’t think setting yourself a target is a gimmicky initiative, especially one dictated by a calendar we follow for literally everything else. And if there is indeed a problem, what makes it gimmicky? 11 hours ago, Jacksgranda said: Just take it a day at a time, this setting targets of weeks/months is stupid. Why is it stupid? Targeting things for weeks/months is completely normal. It can work for some people. 8 hours ago, throbber said: I said I find the concept of showing off you’re not drinking on social media is pathetic - not the moderation of your alcohol consumption. This is a Scottish football forum. I don’t think anyone here is “showing off”. I said earlier, there is a thread dedicated to “what are you drinking?” and I don’t think it’s cream soda. 7 hours ago, throbber said: But you are not taking up a new hobby or embarking on any sort of difficult task you are just not consuming alcohol. Why would you need to feel part of anything for doing that? If you are wanting to knock the alcohol on the head why not just abstain from going out to the pub with mates until the month is over? I don’t know why other people have to come into the equation at all. You seem to be forgetting that “just not consuming alcohol” is a difficult task for some. It might be easy for you, and many other members of the forum as they have kindly pointed out, but it’s not easy for everyone. You don’t need to tell them what they’re doing is stupid. Abstaining from the pub with your mates until the month is over is one thing. Abstaining from the pub by yourself is another. Abstaining from drinking in the house due to boredom and loneliness is another altogether. For some people, they’d be abstaining from the only socialising that they get. 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 (edited) 11 hours ago, beesher said: Will definitely scale back the drinking in Jan, mainly to help lose a few pounds of holiday beef. Drinking is such an ingrained part of our culture that sometimes you need to commit to something like dry Jan to give yourself a break. Aye same. Ended 2023 eating shite more regularly and drinking a lot at weekends. Hoping there is some AF beer in the pub tomorrow, though, as I cba drinking Coke Zero or some other marked up fizzy shite for a few hours. Keen to lose a few pounds but for the next month or so i have a very early rise on a Monday - I want to try and get a proper rest at the weekend so im not knackered before the week even begins because my sleep pattern is fucked. Can't say i'm doing Dry Jan, though, as I'm going to the Whisky Festival later in the month. Edited January 6 by Todd_is_God 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross. Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 (edited) Going on about 3 years since I more or less stopped drinking. Probably drunk around a bottle of wine and 4 or 5 beers in that time, usually just having one drink with dinner on some occasion or other. I have no idea at this point if I miss having a bevvy or not. Turns out I can talk just as much shite sober as I can when pished. Most zero alcohol beers taste close enough to their full bevvy equivalent that you don’t notice the difference now, which is handy when in the pub because I can still tan 10+ of them when I would be bagged up after a couple of soft drinks, but that also means I don’t save money on nights out. The absence of an almost permanent hangover and a few days of the fear per week is still quite nice. Edited January 6 by Ross. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leith Green Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 On 01/01/2024 at 09:01, Leith Green said: I am going for it, the only period I have had off the bevvy was when I had an operation 12 years ago and couldnt drink for 3 months. I felt much fitter, lost weight and slept better. Its time for another go, I have nothing much planned for January (my birthday aside, but its at the end so I can wait til Feb) so will just avoid social stuff. Will post back here when I inevitably fail............................ 9 days, 9 fucking days I lasted. I blame my wife, Chilean Merlot with the pasta. Bellisima, it has to be said. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgie greatness Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 12 minutes ago, Leith Green said: 9 days, 9 fucking days I lasted. I blame my wife, Chilean Merlot with the pasta. Bellisima, it has to be said. Hibs-it 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leith Green Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 2 minutes ago, Gorgie greatness said: Hibs-it I mean, that might have been funny if you hadnt actually fucked the quote 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgie greatness Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 I started on the 2nd…so a week so far! my only issue is when I start again I end up reeking in no time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alta-pete Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 I was off it from late October through November and then December was just a disgrace. My birthday, a week in the sun, couple of work do’s and then a fortnight off work for the festive. I actually think my pre-December abstinence triggered some sort of catch up reaction for what I’d missed out on. (I await the PnB fitness/motivational coaches coming to tell me I’m just a greedy b*****d) Went back to dry before the return to work on the 4th and the sleeping pattern is still fucked. Bed for 10pm, now midnight on a Tuesday and I’m posting on PnB. . Hoping it sorts itself out soon. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Ferrino Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 6 hours ago, Leith Green said: 9 days, 9 fucking days I lasted. I blame my wife, Chilean Merlot with the pasta. Bellisima, it has to be said. Are you in prison.? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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