vikingTON Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 11 minutes ago, SouthLanarkshireWhite said: Wisnae me, a big boy did it and ran away. Always someone else's fault. And in the boomer mindset, it's almost always a dusky foreign immigrant. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathematics Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 4 hours ago, SlipperyP said: I was born 1974. It seems reading this thread, im now a boomer You’re generation X. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diegomarahenry Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 11 hours ago, Empty It said: I don't think the "my wean is angel" shite that seems to have overcome parents helps, they think their little shit can do no wrong therfore the child doesn't learn that actions have repercussions. They can act the c**t, get away with it and they know it in school so when it comes to real life and they find out the hard way that repercussions do exist it's difficult. I think that’s always been the case though, when I started working, some of the behaviours of the older staff would get a jail sentence now. Some of the things that were said and done in front of me as a sheltered 19 year old were a real eye opener. Working with people that were clearly drunk, sexual harassment was just banter and anyone reporting it was a miserable b*****d. Threats and actual violence. Now people are well aware of their rights. People’s upbringings are different now and the workplace is different but it is still a big leap when you go from education, hanging about with folk your own age, to working with people in their 40s and 50s. In my first week of work as a 19 year old, I was described as being a big shy boy. A chain smoking alcoholic cleaner in her 60s told she would meet me in the car park and ride the shyness out me. Nothing in my upbringing prepared me for that moment. (Her telling me that) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 'Mon the Gen Xers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velo army Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 57 minutes ago, diegomarahenry said: I think that’s always been the case though, when I started working, some of the behaviours of the older staff would get a jail sentence now. Some of the things that were said and done in front of me as a sheltered 19 year old were a real eye opener. Working with people that were clearly drunk, sexual harassment was just banter and anyone reporting it was a miserable b*****d. Threats and actual violence. Now people are well aware of their rights. People’s upbringings are different now and the workplace is different but it is still a big leap when you go from education, hanging about with folk your own age, to working with people in their 40s and 50s. In my first week of work as a 19 year old, I was described as being a big shy boy. A chain smoking alcoholic cleaner in her 60s told she would meet me in the car park and ride the shyness out me. Nothing in my upbringing prepared me for that moment. (Her telling me that) Reason for extroversion found . It's a good thread and it's good to be reminded of the way in which modern workplaces are now better, especially as one who loves complaining about the youngsters. @DiegoDiego's example does speak to a lack of emotional resilience in that cohort and reflects my own experiences working with some of the younger ones. The awareness of existential and mental health conditions is fantastic and a net positive. There is a tendency, however, fuelled by algorithmic social media, to identify fully with these conditions and regard them as calcified social identities rather than things to be overcome. What I see coming from this is an overattachment to limbic reactions and an expectation that the world must adapt to accommodate these. On the positive side were seeing a rise in union movements, social and protest movements from this generation. So aye, the kids are generally alright 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross. Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 1 hour ago, diegomarahenry said: In my first week of work as a 19 year old, I was described as being a big shy boy. A chain smoking alcoholic cleaner in her 60s told she would meet me in the car park and ride the shyness out me. Nothing in my upbringing prepared me for that moment. (Her telling me that) In her defence, it seems to have worked. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Empty It Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 2 hours ago, diegomarahenry said: A chain smoking alcoholic cleaner in her 60s told she would meet me in the car park and ride the shyness out me. How was the ride? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musketeer Gripweed Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 Bring back the belt. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNU_Linux Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 (edited) Edited February 27 by GNU_Linux 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted February 27 Author Share Posted February 27 Martin Scurr is the name of a pirate not a doctor. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbornbairn Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 One of the things that annoys me is the people that often put themselves forward for the position of "Mental Health First Aider". My last company did this and they had 3 of them. One guy did it for genuine, altruistic reasons. The other two were the office gossip and the corporate arse-kisser who was the biggest bully in the company - the last two people you'd ever open up to about a personal problem. If the company aren't serious about the issue, if they just treat it as a tick box exercise, they can make things worse for people. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiegoDiego Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 3 hours ago, Newbornbairn said: If the company aren't serious about the issue, if they just treat it as a tick box exercise, they can make things worse for people. My work do "wellbeing checks" every few months. I'm reasonably sure they're just cover for harvesting the rank and file's feedback about mid-management. My paranoia isn't helped by the fact that they've never given me a wellness check. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greendot Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 6 hours ago, ICTChris said: Martin Scurr is the name of a pirate not a doctor. To be fair, the other writer Clara Gaspar sounds like the chain smoking alcoholic cleaner from @diegomarahenry's tale! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 7 hours ago, ICTChris said: Martin Scurr is the name of a pirate not a doctor. One for Generation X but I wondered if it was a pseudonym for Dr Martin Scrote 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musketeer Gripweed Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 I suppose this might fit in here. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-68380264 Students are very low and sad because they have to do exams with only two months notice. Whilst, I do feel a bit for them, how long did they expect the pandemic arrangements to last? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonHMFC Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 22 hours ago, Newbornbairn said: One of the things that annoys me is the people that often put themselves forward for the position of "Mental Health First Aider". My last company did this and they had 3 of them. One guy did it for genuine, altruistic reasons. The other two were the office gossip and the corporate arse-kisser who was the biggest bully in the company - the last two people you'd ever open up to about a personal problem. If the company aren't serious about the issue, if they just treat it as a tick box exercise, they can make things worse for people. Think you are bang on the money there. In my previous job, the HR manager and "Mental Health First Aider" was the CEO's wife. There wasn't a hope in hell anybody was going to go to her with issues. Coincidentally, my new company rolled out training for the position a couple of weeks back. I am currently studying a counselling degree so put myself forward, and on the course I was joined by another two guys, no women at all which I thought was quite refreshing in a way, however I am under no illusion that many women would not feel comfortable talking about issues with a male. It is something that should probably be outsourced, but I guess it depends on the company. If they want to do things on the cheap and put a tick beside "health and wellbeing" then doing it internally will suit a lot of them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted February 28 Author Share Posted February 28 17 minutes ago, Musketeer Gripweed said: I suppose this might fit in here. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-68380264 Students are very low and sad because they have to do exams with only two months notice. Whilst, I do feel a bit for them, how long did they expect the pandemic arrangements to last? I can see their point in that there's a relatively short notice period and people will have been preparing for their exams to be done in the way they've been for several years. It would have made more sense to start it from the beginning of the year. However, closed book exams are surely perfectly normal and the talk of extreme anxiety etc seems a bit over the top. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molotov Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 1 minute ago, ICTChris said: I can see their point in that there's a relatively short notice period and people will have been preparing for their exams to be done in the way they've been for several years. It would have made more sense to start it from the beginning of the year. However, closed book exams are surely perfectly normal and the talk of extreme anxiety etc seems a bit over the top. Just like it would have made more sense to introduce VAR in at the start of a season instead of mid way through……only in Scotland 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeWhoWalksBehindTheRows Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 Imagine having a greet cause you can't sit a uni exam without the answers next to you 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Am Featha Taigh Nan Clach Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 In my experience, more young people now see an obstacle like an exam or test at relatively short notice as something that if they or their parents complain to teachers/pastoral care/senior management about then it will be made easier for them, rather than a challenge that just has to be overcome. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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