RandomGuy. Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 Motherwells top flight run is one of the most impressive, and under rated, achievements in Scottish football IMO. I do find it a bit odd either Dundee side is put above them in "biggest club" rankings tbh. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorge Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 8 hours ago, TheScarf said: Surely Brechin going from the Championship in 2017-18 to the Highland League in 2021-22 will never be beaten? A highly impressive feat. I'd settle for the Smokies simply matching it TBQHWY 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 4 hours ago, kingjoey said: I'd have loved Brechin to back to the SPFL to show that it can be done. Is there any team North of Dundee that you don't have an issue with? There is no club north, south, east, west or in Dundee that I don't have a grievance against, that's surely how football works. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 11 hours ago, oneteaminglasgow said: Aye, I vaguely recall their chairman was trying to get the playoffs scrapped again the season they actually went down too. It was worse than that. He wanted a 16 team League Two, with Celtic and Rangers "Colts" in it and allowed to be promoted, and no relegation for 2 years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MazzyStar Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 38 minutes ago, craigkillie said: There is no club north, south, east, west or in Dundee that I don't have a grievance against, that's surely how football works. Even Kilmarnock? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 7 minutes ago, MazzyStar said: Even Kilmarnock? Especially Kilmarnock, surely. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 1 hour ago, craigkillie said: There is no club north, south, east, west or in Dundee that I don't have a grievance against, that's surely how football works. The fact that I have absolutely no grievance against Brechin surely proves that's not how football works. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gannonball Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 1 minute ago, kingjoey said: The fact that I have absolutely no grievance against Brechin surely proves that's not how football works. Big team found 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictorOnopko Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 (edited) 18 hours ago, kingjoey said: I know that I'm a boring old fart, but I'll never tire of the statistic that Hearts have never beaten either Rangers team at Hampden since it opened 121 years ago. They did beat them in the cup final in 97/8 (?) at Celtic Park, which at the time was very funny. How many finals (and in recent years, semis) have they contested? Can't be that many, although I agree it's still a good stat. Edited April 23 by VictorOnopko 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 1 hour ago, VictorOnopko said: They did beat them in the cup final in 97/8 (?) at Celtic Park, which at the time was very funny. How many finals (and in recent years, semis) have they contested? Can't be that many, although I agree it's still a good stat. No idea. 121 years, though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 2 hours ago, VictorOnopko said: They did beat them in the cup final in 97/8 (?) at Celtic Park, which at the time was very funny. How many finals (and in recent years, semis) have they contested? Can't be that many, although I agree it's still a good stat. 20 P20 W0 D3 L17 F14 A50 Sat 22 Mar 1930 SC SF Rangers 4-1 Hearts Sat 30 Mar 1935 SC SF Hearts 1-1 Rangers Wed 10 Apr 1935 SC SF r Rangers 2-0 Hearts Sat 10 May 1941 SLC Fin Hearts 1-1 Rangers Sat 17 Mar 1941 SLC Fin r Rangers 4-2 Hearts Sat 05 Jul 1941 SMC SF Rangers 4-2 Hearts Sat 27 Apr 1946 SLC SF Rangers 2-1 Hearts (aet) Sat 04 Apr 1953 SC SF Rangers 2-1 Hearts Sat 28 Oct 1961 LC Fin Hearts 1-1 Rangers (aet) Mon 18 Dec 1961 LC Fin r Rangers 3-1 Hearts Sat 01 May 1976 SC Fin Rangers 3-1 Hearts Wed 30 Mar 1977 SC SF Rangers 2-0 Hearts Wed 21 Sep 1988 LC SF Rangers 3-0 Hearts Sat 18 May 1996 SC Fin Rangers 5-1 Hearts Tue 04 Feb 2003 LC SF Rangers 1-0 Hearts Wed 30 Jan 2008 LC SF Rangers 2-0 Hearts Sun 03 Nov 2019 LC SF Rangers 3-0 Hearts Sat 21 May 2022 SC Fin Rangers 2-0 Hearts (aet) Sun 05 Nov 2023 LC SF Rangers 3-1 Hearts Sun 21 Apr 2024 SC SF Rangers 2-0 Hearts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightmare Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 On 22/04/2024 at 09:29, TheScarf said: Surely Brechin going from the Championship in 2017-18 to the Highland League in 2021-22 will never be beaten? A highly impressive feat. In terms of Scottish football, it's a wild fall which is probably unlikely to be replicated barring a team getting into financial difficulty which renders them uncompetitive over numerous seasons. The case of Paderborn in Germany in the past decade is the most extreme example of the antithesis of this thread: 13/14 - 2nd in 2.Bundesliga, promoted 14/15 - 18th in Bundesliga, relegated 15/16 - 18th in 2.Bundesliga, relegated 16/17 - 18th in 3.Liga - should have been relegated but saved on a technicality because 1860 Munich lost their license and were demoted 17/18 - 2nd in 3.Liga, promoted 18/19 - 2nd in 2.Bundesliga, promoted 19/20 - 18th in Bundesliga, relegated So not only a mad fall from grace between 13/14 and 16/17, but then back to back promotions to follow it (and then another relegation). They've finally calmed the f**k down and settled in the 2nd tier for the last 4 seasons. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonS Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 On 22/04/2024 at 09:29, TheScarf said: Surely Brechin going from the Championship in 2017-18 to the Highland League in 2021-22 will never be beaten? A highly impressive feat. In terms of numbers of consecutive relegations, below the SPFL, Vale of Leithen are about to suffer their third relegation in three years, matching Brechin's record. In that time they've won 3, drawn 2 and lost 78, conceding 396 goals. Still got 9 games left this season but they've lost every match so far. They'd been circling the drain in the LL for a while, saved by Covid and before that by Selkirk going bust and the LL choosing not to relegate anyone. They've won 5 league games in 5 years. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witchfindergeneral Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 3 minutes ago, GordonS said: In terms of numbers of consecutive relegations, below the SPFL, Vale of Leithen are about to suffer their third relegation in three years, matching Brechin's record. In that time they've won 3, drawn 2 and lost 78, conceding 396 goals. Still got 9 games left this season but they've lost every match so far. They'd been circling the drain in the LL for a while, saved by Covid and before that by Selkirk going bust and the LL choosing not to relegate anyone. They've won 5 league games in 5 years. Huge fan of Leithen's motto: Keep Faith, Keep Working, Keep Winning 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galajambo Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 On 21/04/2024 at 14:41, Coventry Saint said: It's not exactly the same as what you're asking, but Dundee FC haven't won the Scottish Cup since 1910 (Nineteen-Ten). That's an astonishing 114 years. So they've equalled Hibs' record then? How fitting 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nowhereman Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 1 hour ago, GordonS said: In terms of numbers of consecutive relegations, below the SPFL, Vale of Leithen are about to suffer their third relegation in three years, matching Brechin's record. In that time they've won 3, drawn 2 and lost 78, conceding 396 goals. Still got 9 games left this season but they've lost every match so far. They'd been circling the drain in the LL for a while, saved by Covid and before that by Selkirk going bust and the LL choosing not to relegate anyone. They've won 5 league games in 5 years. In 1996 Dumbarton were 10th in tier two, 1997 9th in tier three and in 1998 10th in the bottom tier 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUcal Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 Brechin's demise after their season in the Championship is mental. Spending over a decade consecutively in the 3rd tier, as a relatively competitive side (some good seasons, some bad), then having a completely unexpected promotion to the 2nd tier - for the first time in around 15 years - leading to an embarrassingly bad season with no wins, which is in turn a catalyst for a crazy freefall through the leagues and out of the top 42. Football eh? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIVIFOREVER Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 (edited) On 22/04/2024 at 09:29, TheScarf said: Surely Brechin going from the Championship in 2017-18 to the Highland League in 2021-22 will never be beaten? A highly impressive feat. Both of us came into the Championship the same season, we won League One and they won the play offs, we got promoted to the Premiership the following season through the play offs and they were relegated back to League One, then onto a downward spiral towards the trapdoor. I mention this because we beat them up there to go 13pts ahead of Alloa with 5 games to go, and one of their fans shouted enjoy promotion you'll be straight back down the following season. Football banter, you canny whack it. Edited April 23 by LIVIFOREVER 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingscot Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 56 minutes ago, AUcal said: Brechin's demise after their season in the Championship is mental. Spending over a decade consecutively in the 3rd tier, as a relatively competitive side (some good seasons, some bad), then having a completely unexpected promotion to the 2nd tier - for the first time in around 15 years - leading to an embarrassingly bad season with no wins, which is in turn a catalyst for a crazy freefall through the leagues and out of the top 42. Football eh? At the start of that season, we played Brechin and won late on to go top. I wouldn't have said they'd have ended up without a win and on 4 points at the end of the season after that game - it was a tough battle. Towards the end, they went 8 games without scoring which was pretty brutal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby_F Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 21 hours ago, RandomGuy. said: Motherwells top flight run is one of the most impressive, and under rated, achievements in Scottish football IMO. I do find it a bit odd either Dundee side is put above them in "biggest club" rankings tbh. Were they not saved by the 10,000 seater rule at one point? Or something similar? Did they cleverly go into administration at a time when there were no points deductions either? That IS impressive! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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