Sergeant Wilson Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 15 minutes ago, MixuFixit said: Wait are we talking about yoghurt in the spoon bit of the spoon but just varying what side up you put it in your mouth or are we discussing actually putting the yoghurt on the back of the spoon? Because the latter is OFTW behaviour. You'd be there forever. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 As he is the most qualified to comment given nominative determination how does David "Spoony" Wotherspoon eat his yoghurt? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Steele Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Grahame said: You'd be surprised at the amount of yogurt you can house of the summit of a concaved spoon. Summit of a spoon, you say? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ2 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 This is excellent content. And you get nothing but excellent content from Grahame IMHO. Big fan. My forum experience is improved greatly by Grahame’s postings. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSU Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 I didn't think for a minute that this would be the case, but I approve of using yogurt as a verb. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Is @charon the poster formerly known as @wunfellaff? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlipperyP Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Dele said: Is @charon the poster formerly known as @wunfellaff? yes, i cant remember which thread, probably dead pool. he confirmed it himself Edited February 13, 2020 by SlipperyP 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Maths question here. Apologies in advance. I understand that odds of winning the lottery are about 15m to one for each ticket. So if I buy 15 for the same draw my odds come down to 1m to one. If I buy one ticket for each of fifteen consecutive draws, are the odds of winning still 15m to one? The odds of winning each draw are that, but I can't get my head around what that means for the overall odds. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonD Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 1 minute ago, coprolite said: Maths question here. Apologies in advance. I understand that odds of winning the lottery are about 15m to one for each ticket. So if I buy 15 for the same draw my odds come down to 1m to one. If I buy one ticket for each of fifteen consecutive draws, are the odds of winning still 15m to one? The odds of winning each draw are that, but I can't get my head around what that means for the overall odds. Previous draws have no effect on the odds of the current one. The odds against tossing a coin ten times in a row and getting heads every time (assuming an ordinary coin) are fairly small; I could work it out but can't be arsed. But if you've got nine heads in a row the odds on the tenth one being heads are still 50/50. So you're still on a 15 million to one shot on every draw. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 1 minute ago, GordonD said: Previous draws have no effect on the odds of the current one. The odds against tossing a coin ten times in a row and getting heads every time (assuming an ordinary coin) are fairly small; I could work it out but can't be arsed. But if you've got nine heads in a row the odds on the tenth one being heads are still 50/50. So you're still on a 15 million to one shot on every draw. Yep, got that. I think that might be the analogy I need to work it out though. If I toss ten coins, what is my chance of getting one heads? Is that the analogous question? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnydun Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, coprolite said: If I toss ten coins You sure you're from Aberdeen aye? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, Grahame said: If you took part in 15 draws your chances of winning any one (as a collective) would improve 15 fold. I've effectively added an additional 14 times the number of possible combinations (or is it permutations - can never remember) to the denominator though, have I not? The dates (1-15) are effectively something else I have to match. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Just now, johnnydun said: You sure you're from Aberdeen aye? OK. Same ha'penny ten times. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonD Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, coprolite said: Yep, got that. I think that might be the analogy I need to work it out though. If I toss ten coins, what is my chance of getting one heads? Is that the analogous question? Ten heads in a row is actually only one in 1,024 (two to the tenth power) - not as slim as I thought but I still wouldn't bet on it. At least one head in ten tosses must be 1,023 to one on. Though for any individual coin, it's still 50/50. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnydun Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 1 minute ago, coprolite said: OK. Same ha'penny ten times. That's better, be proud of your tight fisted heritage brother. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgecutter Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 30 minutes ago, coprolite said: Yep, got that. I think that might be the analogy I need to work it out though. If I toss ten coins, what is my chance of getting one heads? Is that the analogous question? In a moment of great procrastination, I just flipped a poker chip (that I'd marked on one side with a pencil, which I'll call the tails side) 50 times. I've been varying the amount of energy exerted on the flip, several have battered off the slant on the roof and landed that way, etc etc. After 10 flips, I had 9 heads and just one tails. After 50, I've got 33 heads and only 17 tails. At one point I got 10 successive heads. #science 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Just now, Hedgecutter said: In a moment of great procrastination, I just flipped a poker chip (that I'd marked on one side with a pencil, which I'll call the tails side) 50 times. I've been varying the amount of energy exerted on the flip, several have battered off the slant on the roof and landed that way, etc etc. After 10 flips, I had 9 heads and just one tails. After 50, I've got 33 heads and only 17 tails. At one point I got 10 successive heads. #science Let us know the outcome once you've finished the experiment 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 (edited) 49 minutes ago, coprolite said: Maths question here. Apologies in advance. I understand that odds of winning the lottery are about 15m to one for each ticket. So if I buy 15 for the same draw my odds come down to 1m to one. If I buy one ticket for each of fifteen consecutive draws, are the odds of winning still 15m to one? The odds of winning each draw are that, but I can't get my head around what that means for the overall odds. 14,999,985/1 Edited February 13, 2020 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnydun Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 20 minutes ago, Hedgecutter said: In a moment of great procrastination, I just flipped a poker chip (that I'd marked on one side with a pencil, which I'll call the tails side) 50 times. I've been varying the amount of energy exerted on the flip, several have battered off the slant on the roof and landed that way, etc etc. After 10 flips, I had 9 heads and just one tails. After 50, I've got 33 heads and only 17 tails. At one point I got 10 successive heads. #science The side with the pencil mark will have more weight. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgecutter Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 (edited) 49 minutes ago, coprolite said: Let us know the outcome once you've finished the experiment Got to the true known 50:50 after n=2 and n=146 Could have just stopped at 2, huh. Eta: Should point out that some of my work deals with ratios / stats which still remains a bit of a dark art to me, so in a way this was justifiable work. I'm told I have to work to n=200, but that "150 is usually fine if you can't get 200" (supported by this P&B experiment). I usually find that counting away until I get 100 of one kind consistently comes away with a steady answer if the things occur in the same proportion. Edited February 13, 2020 by Hedgecutter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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