Michael W Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 The bottom line is that the board aren't spending money that we don't have. Without that external funding, neither Skacel nor McManus would've been signed. Yes, it isn't an ideal situation and goodwill isn't sustainable. However, the club has been operated at a profit for at least the last 3 seasons and so I trust the board's financial management. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
da_no_1 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 2 minutes ago, Michael W said: 5 hours ago, Varna Rover said: Didnt your fans back your clube for the YEARS ahead. Oh dear the hypocracy abounds. now go ask mummy to change your nappy little boy. Childish reply but thanks for trying. 2 minutes ago, Michael W said: The bottom line is that the board aren't spending money that we don't have. Without that external funding, neither Skacel nor McManus would've been signed. Yes, it isn't an ideal situation and goodwill isn't sustainable. However, the club has been operated at a profit for at least the last 3 seasons and so I trust the board's financial management. Sensible reply, thanks 5 minutes ago, mojito said: If the external funding was used to plug the gap in operating costs then yes, the klaxon should be going off. What the local businesses have allowed us is the luxury of a few extra bodies. Could we have assembled a squad without the funding? Absolutely, but we've brought in two solid signings. Financially, we are doing relatively well. By not over stretching ourselves we've been able to turn over modest profits year after year. Money that I would hope our board would be utilising to bring down our debt, you know instead of just ditching it. Sensible reply, thanks 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RRFC1989 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Knew this would happen once these deals were announced. Pars fans would say we're this and that and think we're struggling financially. Truth is, I believe we've reinvested some of the Toshney money but I don't think all of it. It makes sense to bank some and see if we can secure support from local business people if we can. Would you spend your own money if you knew someone would buy something for you? Thought not!Pars fans just jealous that we're cutting our cloth accordingly and doing well on the pitch at the same time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barn Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 (edited) 4 minutes ago, RRFC1989 said: Pars fans just jealous that we're cutting our cloth accordingly and doing well on the pitch at the same time. slavering greeting mess Edited July 21, 2016 by Barn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooboax Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Not jealous. Nice bit of basic trolling though, nice one. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brashy's Boots Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Things must be quiet on the Dunfy threads - half of them are in here. Again. As usual. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
da_no_1 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 14 minutes ago, RRFC1989 said: Knew this would happen once these deals were announced. Pars fans would say we're this and that and think we're struggling financially. Truth is, I believe we've reinvested some of the Toshney money but I don't think all of it. It makes sense to bank some and see if we can secure support from local business people if we can. Would you spend your own money if you knew someone would buy something for you? Thought not! Pars fans just jealous that we're cutting our cloth accordingly and doing well on the pitch at the same time. So, truthfully now, if we announced we'd signed two decent players using local businessmens' money, would you just accept it? Or would we be called all the cheating b*****ds under the sun? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MICMAC Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Basically all that's happened is that 2 companies have sponsored players. Most clubs at this level have sponsored players. Just like the manager or teams have sponsored vehicles.They get a lot of PR out of it. They'll have a pic in the match day programme with their name or company underneath saying sponsored by whoever. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooboax Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Fair play to Rovers fir signing players. Not easy to find money in the game. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beachbum Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 1 hour ago, da_no_1 said: So, truthfully now, if we announced we'd signed two decent players using local businessmens' money, would you just accept it? Or would we be called all the cheating b*****ds under the sun? But you are cheating b*****ds. You always have been and you always will be. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rover the Moon Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 So, truthfully now, if we announced we'd signed two decent players using local businessmens' money, would you just accept it? Or would we be called all the cheating b*****ds under the sun? There's a difference between signing players with money you don't have and adding it to your debt, and having businessmen paying wages out of their own pocket for a bit of PR while not looking for the money back. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barn Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 1 minute ago, Beachbum said: But you are cheating b*****ds. You always have been and you always will be. Thank f**k for CVA's eh? The quickly approaching reality that we are going to finish considerably higher up the table than you must hurt tbf. Gary Locke tho. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A.F.C Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 2 hours ago, da_no_1 said: Jeez I was merely pointing out that Raith clearly had a budget in mind for the season ahead and it seems the reason they've been able to sign two decent players is because they've overspent said budget,, however it's presented. Is that not a fact? If you guys trust the current board not to do this repeatedly over the course of a few season and get yourself in the shit again (albeit on a much smaller scale than we did) then fair enough. Just my opinion, but it sets wee alarm bells ringing when the board repeatedly ask for bigger crowds to turn out whilst relying on local businesses to fund the playing squad. Are they really saying that though or just that with the signings they hope for more fans to turn up? Also where is the repetition? They had a budget and have added to it with investment that I'm assuming is no strings. You can only overspend your own money. Are the businessmen demanding repayment? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
da_no_1 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Are they really saying that though or just that with the signings they hope for more fans to turn up? Also where is the repetition? They had a budget and have added to it with investment that I'm assuming is no strings. You can only overspend your own money. Are the businessmen demanding repayment? They funded loans/transfers in January the same way and the Raith board are always in the Press pleading for more people through the gates. It doesn't sound like these businessmen want their money back. Given the Raith boards' sterling efforts to turn the clubs' finances round in recent times I'd be amazed if that was the case. However there must be something in it for them to make it worth their while other than a mention in the programme. Like I said if it were us announcing deals like this Rovers fans' would be utterly exploding with rage...... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
da_no_1 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 But you are cheating b*****ds. You always have been and you always will be. Very possibly......as you are and always will be The Wee Team 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raithie Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 The quickly approaching reality that we are going to finish considerably higher up the table than you must hurt tbf. Dunfermline fans one and only wish this season, desperate so they are. I always thought we were insignificant to them. Clearly shitting it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wardy Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Looking forward to the season now that most of the players are signed up. Decent enough squad to hopefully challenge for a play-off spot. Not overly fussed about Dunfermline, or any other team for that matter. If Dunfermline finish above us, then good luck to them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers1992/1993 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Looking forward to the season now that most of the players are signed up. Decent enough squad to hopefully challenge for a play-off spot. Not overly fussed about Dunfermline, or any other team for that matter. If Dunfermline finish above us, then good luck to them. Most of the players? All of the players are signed up now.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wardy Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 58 minutes ago, Rovers1992/1993 said: Most of the players? All of the players are signed up now.. You just never know... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raith_Rasta Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Like a said a few pages back this is more of the 2 business taking a PR gamble out of their own pocket and not Rovers taking a gamble for asking for money from them then paying them back. It's all seems very well organised. No way would Rovers risk the chance of doing a dunfy or gers. If anything I doubt you will here much more teams in Scotland going down the shitter a lot more money in the game now to keep houses in order 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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