Blame Me Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 Just now, Newbornbairn said: How much goes in Holt's back pocket for this one then? File this beside Ray McKinnon's phone book - Months of compiling stats and producing profiles of players and we manage to pull one out who worked with the DoF at his last gig. Are they related? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Caractacus Potts Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, Ranaldo Bairn said: Miller was there too, so might have some input here. Miller left before Holt and subsequently ATS went to Livi. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taxi for De Massis Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 He scored three for Livingston, our DoF has possibly identified an attacker 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozam76 Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Ranaldo Bairn said: Miller was there too, so might have some input here. Miller was away before ATS signed for Livingston. Edited December 29, 2021 by mozam76 Yon Cactus fellay beat me to it 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulioBairn Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 Are people still suggesting our DOF has nothing to do with recruitment 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilostmyself Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 Likely better than what we have although it looks like even Williamson may have played more games than him the past few years. From Saturdays team he would come in for Lemon i imagine who doesn't appear to be up to first team football at this level yet. If we continue to play with 3 at the back then we need to be bringing in replacements for Hall & McKay ASAP. The amount of improvement needed across the entire team is wild and with the length of contracts dished out by Holt you have to imagine this will be an incredibly expensive window if we are actually to make enough changes to become competitive again. Being 18 points off the top too means we're at best fighting for a playoff spot. It's some gamble required from the new board to actually front up the cash this window or will they maybe be thinking of doing enough to avoid the drop and focus on next year? What a mess. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bairn88 Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 5 hours ago, bairn88 said: Aaron Taylor Sinclair? 32 games in 4 years in a position we are fairly strong in (or at least, is nowhere near a priority)? If he’s an early signing my head is going to fall off. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PedroMoutinho Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 1 minute ago, ilostmyself said: Likely better than what we have although it looks like even Williamson may have played more games than him the past few years. From Saturdays team he would come in for Lemon i imagine who doesn't appear to be up to first team football at this level yet. If we continue to play with 3 at the back then we need to be bringing in replacements for Hall & McKay ASAP. The amount of improvement needed across the entire team is wild and with the length of contracts dished out by Holt you have to imagine this will be an incredibly expensive window if we are actually to make enough changes to become competitive again. Being 18 points off the top too means we're at best fighting for a playoff spot. It's some gamble required from the new board to actually front up the cash this window or will they maybe be thinking of doing enough to avoid the drop and focus on next year? What a mess. We could well end up in the playoffs at the other end if substantial changes aren’t made to the squad 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Back Post Misses Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 17 minutes ago, Russ said: Or if Holt thinks so. Considering it was Holt that signed him at Livingston there’s no danger this is a Martin Rennie signing. FFS here we go. Martindale signs all the players at Livingston and has been doing so for about 5 years 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Back Post Misses Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 6 minutes ago, JulioBairn said: Are people still suggesting our DOF has nothing to do with recruitment On the final say 100% yes 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TedCrilly Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 (edited) A different management team with the same shocking recruitment strategy as before. If only we could pinpoint where it’s all going wrong… Edited December 29, 2021 by TedCrilly 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syd Puddefoot Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 21 minutes ago, Russ said: Or if Holt thinks so. Considering it was Holt that signed him at Livingston there’s no danger this is a Martin Rennie signing. If he's decent, its a Rennie signing, if he's gash, he's a Holt signing..thats the way it works in here isnt it ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairn in Exile Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, Back Post Misses said: On the final say 100% yes So he IS still involved in recruitment then? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLIS Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 (edited) ATS is okay, it says a lot that we replaced him with Sean Kelly though. He's utterly useless at CB, he's more of a LWB than a CB but he's an okay LB. Was clear he wasn't good enough in the Premiership so was just used as cheap rotation. Also it could have something to do with Holt possibly, but he wasn't the one to sign him for us. Martindale did all the recruitment under Holt, which may give you an idea why Holt is shite at recruiting ATS made his name for us by just doing late backpost runs onto crosses, think he scored one or two against Hibs but he can be a bit prone to looking clumsy when asked to do more than just blooter the ball away. There's a good few examples of him being an error prone numpty, especially having a nightmare at Aberdeen when asked to play CB. He's big but not strong, won't physically impose himself but just wants to try float about the left side Edited December 29, 2021 by ATLIS 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbri Bairn Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 whelmedme 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blame Me Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, ATLIS said: ... when asked to do more than just blooter the ball away I have no issues with this right now! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLIS Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 Just now, Blame Me said: I have no issues with this right now! To be fair that tag could be applied to any Livi defender of the last 5 years Keeping it simple works sometimes, but the worry in me knows that the only Livi manager to try deviate from that was Kenny Miller who tried to focus on playing out from the back and using defenders to bring the ball out. Hopefully Rennie ignores him on that one 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TedCrilly Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, ATLIS said: ATS is okay, it says a lot that we replaced him with Sean Kelly though. He's utterly useless at CB, he's more of a LWB than a CB but he's an okay LB. Was clear he wasn't good enough in the Premiership so was just used as cheap rotation. Also it could have something to do with Holt possibly, but he wasn't the one to sign him for us. Martindale did all the recruitment under Holt, which may give you an idea why Holt is shite at recruiting ATS made his name for us by just doing late backpost runs onto crosses, think he scored one or two against Hibs but he can be a bit prone to looking clumsy when asked to do more than just blooter the ball away. There's a good few examples of him being an error prone numpty, especially having a nightmare at Aberdeen when asked to play CB. He's big but not strong, won't physically impose himself but just wants to try float about the left side Sounds like the last player we needed to recruit then if he’s hopeless at centre back. This coupled with genuine Goodwillie rumours does not make for a good day. Edited December 29, 2021 by TedCrilly 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLIS Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 1 minute ago, TedCrilly said: Sounds like the last player we needed to recruit then if he’s hopeless at centre back. This coupled with genuine Goodwillie rumours is not a good day. The upside would be he was hopeless at CB in the Premiership, possibly two steps down he could look like prime Baresi but who knows 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Tattiescone Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 5 minutes ago, ATLIS said: he can be a bit prone to looking clumsy when asked to do more than just blooter the ball away. There's a good few examples of him being an error prone numpty, especially having a nightmare at Aberdeen when asked to play CB. He's big but not strong, won't physically impose himself but just wants to try float about the left side Oh he's going to fit in just fine here then. FFS. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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