Springfield Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 1 minute ago, HopeStreetWalker said: Forget what's gone on in this or previous seasons it's pointless. What matters is the 2 hopefully 4 playoff games and that means backing the players and the manager through them, and leave the recriminations or the backslapping till it's all over. It will define whether the players have the mettle, bottle, desire, skill, will to win to get us promotion and whether they have a future at the club or not. Get promoted? then some of the squad have a future. Don't get promoted? then clear the decks because they will have shown they don't have it. If that does not motivate the players nothing will. With all respect Nesbitt gets a two year ticket nearly a month ago, what message does that send to the squad ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Caractacus Potts Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 11 minutes ago, Blame Me said: It's almost like all the teams mentioned who've been in L1 over that period have regressed and yet you can't see that we have as well, making McGlynns job harder As highlighted in the replies there are literally too many intangibles as to why statistically their records are comparable but the seasons and outcomes have been vastly different. Perhaps a factor was that then we were seen as a massive scalp and teams setup differently whereas now that notion has gone the games in the league become closer. Who knows! However, it's become an odd hill to die on. Not sure I’m understanding your point. Teams set up defensively against us under M&M making it easy to beat and now teams have a go against us making it harder for us to win? Are you saying we’ve regressed under McGlynn? I was just trying to make a reasonable point to illustrate the leagues not being that much different. Not sure what you’re trying to throw in the mix. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blame Me Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 9 minutes ago, Springfield said: With all respect Nesbitt gets a two year ticket nearly a month ago, what message does that send to the squad ? 2nd for assists in L1. His contribution to the team prior to Max arriving was what warranted a new deal. He's just looked jaded compared to Max recently. Other clubs would've been keen on him with that record and so makes him a useful squad player. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PedroMoutinho Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, Blame Me said: Other clubs would've been keen on him with that record They’d have been welcome to him for me 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC55 FFC Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 Latest episode of the podcast out now: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1885 Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 53 minutes ago, AL-FFC said: This year ?, no chance with the shit they have uncovered and trying to sort out I would say prudent wheeling and dealing but for the first time in about 3 seasons we haven't had to pay off a playing squad that wasn't fit for purpose. I would say maybe second possibly 3rd with the squad that Kelty has though as no way Tidser, Austin, Cardle, Low and Hggy are on peanuts Hahahahaha Kelty paying more than you christ I've heard it all now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Perrin Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 1 hour ago, parsforlife said: Any suggestions that McGlynn hasn’t spent a fortune compared to mcpake are incredible nonsense . We had a couple of hangover deals From last year but in terms of what they had to be spent McGlynn had way more available than mcpake l. McGlynn hasn’t spent a fortune because we didn’t have a fortune to give him to spend. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Caractacus Potts Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Reggie Perrin said: McGlynn hasn’t spent a fortune because we didn’t have a fortune to give him to spend. He got the same budget as last season plus an extra £150k. Edited May 1, 2023 by Caractacus Potts 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebobsboy Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Blame Me said: 2nd for assists in L1. His contribution to the team prior to Max arriving was what warranted a new deal. He's just looked jaded compared to Max recently. Other clubs would've been keen on him with that record and so makes him a useful squad player. Not keen enough apparently, I've said before I fully expected to see the last of Nesbitt after this season, over two years he hasn't warranted another contract imo improvement or not. The p***k downed tools in his first year with the rest of the gang, and he absolutely goes missing when it suits him. If we do go up to the championship I think he will struggle albeit probably not the only one. McGlynn deemed him worthy of a new contract it just gives you the fear a bit about who else he's going to throw a new deal at next if Nesbitt is the yardstick. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FFC 1876 Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 I don't have an issue with McGlynn extending any of the players deals that we signed last summer but I doubt any of the rest that are out of contract will be kept on for next season. Given who dealt with their initial contracts I'd imagine them leaving will free up a fair chunk of wages in the summer. We know it's going to be a 4-2-3-1 again next season and on that basis I'd be hoping for us to bring in improvements on the starting line up in the below positions. Taking into account Burrell most likely will be gone. New New Donaldson New Mccann McGinn Henderson Morrison New New New New gk Mckay Mackie Yeats Oliver Allan Nesbitt Lawal New winger New striker New centre mid 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 7 hours ago, Caractacus Potts said: Discussing 20/21. The 18 games M&M had where their record was better than McGlynns first 18. As for 19/20 then I agree the frailties in their management ability did start to show. Still, they massively improved results and their record in those 15 games was better than when we had strikers such as Taylor, Farid or Duffy. Had they been in place from the start and managed the same average then we would have coasted that league. With that said I still didn’t want their contract extended because I didn’t have faith in them for the following season. Much like where I am at with McGlynn at the moment. I wasn’t, I am telling you that M&M benefited from having McManus in the side. They couldn’t even get past Raith with his scoring 20 odd goals. Put McManus in this side or any other decent striker we would be way better. Burrell, Morrison, Allen, Wright and Oliver not a patch on him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 4 hours ago, FFC 1876 said: I don't have an issue with McGlynn extending any of the players deals that we signed last summer but I doubt any of the rest that are out of contract will be kept on for next season. Given who dealt with their initial contracts I'd imagine them leaving will free up a fair chunk of wages in the summer. We know it's going to be a 4-2-3-1 again next season and on that basis I'd be hoping for us to bring in improvements on the starting line up in the below positions. Taking into account Burrell most likely will be gone. New New Donaldson New Mccann McGinn Henderson Morrison New New New New gk Mckay Mackie Yeats Oliver Allan Nesbitt Lawal New winger New striker New centre mid McCann, Morrison and Donaldson ain’t up to top Championship standard either. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 6 hours ago, Springfield said: With all respect Nesbitt gets a two year ticket nearly a month ago, what message does that send to the squad ? That MCGlynn rates him and sees him as part of future plans. What else would it show? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Caractacus Potts Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Back Post Misses said: I wasn’t, I am telling you that M&M benefited from having McManus in the side. They couldn’t even get past Raith with his scoring 20 odd goals. Put McManus in this side or any other decent striker we would be way better. Burrell, Morrison, Allen, Wright and Oliver not a patch on him. Put our best players from past seasons in teams and managers have a better chance of winning. Very insightful! As it was, M&M actually got more out of McManus than anyone previous. If it wasn’t for his change in form under those 2 then you wouldn’t even be mentioning him. Prior to M&M, he scored 5 in 13 with 3 of those coming against Dumbarton. Under M&M he scored 12 in 13. You even noted the improvement of McManus and a couple of others when M&M took over. On 15/12/2019 at 10:42, Back Post Misses said: I was encouraged yesterday at the performance. If they can get 4/5 in January and have the likes of Longridge, McManus and Gomis keep playing like that regularly I have hope. Just seems odd using McManus as a stick to hit M&M considering they got the best out of him and the one game he did miss was the one loss they suffered to Clyde. They had plenty of failings but getting the best out of McManus wasn’t one of them. Edited May 2, 2023 by Caractacus Potts 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Caractacus Potts said: Put our best players from past seasons in teams and managers have a better chance of winning. Very insightful! As it was, M&M actually got more out of McManus than anyone previous. If it wasn’t for his change in form under those 2 then you wouldn’t even be mentioning him. Prior to M&M, he scored 5 in 13 with 3 of those coming against Dumbarton. Under M&M he scored 12 in 13. You even noted the improvement of McManus and a couple of others when M&M took over. Just seems odd using McManus as a stick to hit M&M considering they got the best out of him and the one game he did miss was the one loss they suffered to Clyde. They had plenty of failings but getting the best out of McManus wasn’t one of them. One of the very few things il give you on the topic of M&M is the McManus point. They absolutely got him firing. Beforehand he wasn't starting every game, or was shunted out wide by McKinnon, wasn't really performing and cut a pretty dejected figure on the pitch most weeks. Looked like he didn't want to be there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 2 hours ago, Caractacus Potts said: Put our best players from past seasons in teams and managers have a better chance of winning. Very insightful! As it was, M&M actually got more out of McManus than anyone previous. If it wasn’t for his change in form under those 2 then you wouldn’t even be mentioning him. Prior to M&M, he scored 5 in 13 with 3 of those coming against Dumbarton. Under M&M he scored 12 in 13. You even noted the improvement of McManus and a couple of others when M&M took over. Just seems odd using McManus as a stick to hit M&M considering they got the best out of him and the one game he did miss was the one loss they suffered to Clyde. They had plenty of failings but getting the best out of McManus wasn’t one of them. I really wish I had the time and inclination to search someone’s post from 4 years ago to try and prove a point. No need to reply because we will be in danger of boring the tits off everyone again on a subject that has been done to death mainly by you for weeks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Caractacus Potts Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 17 minutes ago, Back Post Misses said: I really wish I had the time and inclination to search someone’s post from 4 years ago to try and prove a point. No need to reply because we will be in danger of boring the tits off everyone again on a subject that has been done to death mainly by you for weeks. It’s really not hard but if you can’t be bothered to look at stats to back up your point then maybe don’t respond and we won’t have to bore anyone. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FFC 1876 Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, Back Post Misses said: McCann, Morrison and Donaldson ain’t up to top Championship standard either. My hypothetical squad has 10 new signings and is 22 men strong, realistically you're not really going to get much more than that so they're going to have to play. Edited May 2, 2023 by FFC 1876 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Perrin Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 34 minutes ago, Caractacus Potts said: It’s really not hard but if you can’t be bothered to look at stats to back up your point then maybe don’t respond and we won’t have to bore anyone. Just a suggestion but if you want to stop boring people just stop posting. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Caractacus Potts Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Reggie Perrin said: Just a suggestion but if you want to stop boring people just stop posting. Seems a bit unfair to suggest. Are we only allowed to post if we agree with you and your friends, such as BPM? Edited May 2, 2023 by Caractacus Potts 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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