Forever Diamond Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 unsure about this portest march on saturday alot of rangers fans seem to know about it there may be trouble ahead.... Footage has been leaked on it 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgecutter Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 I've now got the mental image of an Independence Day spoof which has the big spaceship hovering over Ibrox before firing that laser beam thing down and then blowing the f*** out of it on the command of the SPL chairman's committee. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pozbaird Posted June 18, 2012 Author Share Posted June 18, 2012 I can only imagine which individuals have just suffered a prima facie in their underpants at this news. Rock 'n' roll. Time to fire up AC/DCs Powerage album at full volume in the pozmobile... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doink Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHr6LJEfoio People Power 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozam76 Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 So if New Rangers are voted in by the other clubs, they could be looking at huge sanctions. If the vote goes AGAINST New Rangers, they have to apply to SFL for a vacant space, whilst at the same time Cockwomble does a wriggle and says that New Rangers sanctions are a 3 year ban from playing in the SPL. Am I close? As a wee addendum - Silver Fox Jim White on SSN can't bring himself to say Dual Contracts. He just can't. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itzdrk Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 I've now got the mental image of an Independence Day spoof which has the big spaceship hovering over Ibrox before firing that laser beam thing down and then blowing the f*** out of it on the command of the SPL chairman's committee. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forest_Fifer Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 Gregory Ioannidis @LawTop20 With RFC ending, liabilities and sanctions [Court of Session, dual contracts etc] would also end. This is the main advantage of New Rangers. Gregory Ioannidis @LawTop20 The 'transfer' of the OldCo's liabilities to the NewCo, would mean a serious violation of the separate corporate personality principle. Gregory Ioannidis @LawTop20 @Paulmcc12 @evanjhenderson @mdkster Just to help: SPL may vote to apply sanctions to NewCo but it would be in violation of national law Load o pish RFC (IL) have not ended. They still have the league share and SFA membership so they are still "Rangers" and can be sanctioned. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 Gregory Ioannidis @LawTop20 With RFC ending, liabilities and sanctions [Court of Session, dual contracts etc] would also end. This is the main advantage of New Rangers. Gregory Ioannidis @LawTop20 The 'transfer' of the OldCo's liabilities to the NewCo, would mean a serious violation of the separate corporate personality principle. Gregory Ioannidis @LawTop20 @Paulmcc12 @evanjhenderson @mdkster Just to help: SPL may vote to apply sanctions to NewCo but it would be in violation of national law The SPL/SFA/SFL are free to apply any conditions they like to a new entity wishing to join their organizations. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 Gregory Ioannidis @LawTop20 With RFC ending, liabilities and sanctions [Court of Session, dual contracts etc] would also end. This is the main advantage of New Rangers. Gregory Ioannidis @LawTop20 The 'transfer' of the OldCo's liabilities to the NewCo, would mean a serious violation of the separate corporate personality principle. Gregory Ioannidis @LawTop20 @Paulmcc12 @evanjhenderson @mdkster Just to help: SPL may vote to apply sanctions to NewCo but it would be in violation of national law I think he's been wrong at almost every juncture so far - remember the 'automatic relegation for Newco' argument? The SPL clearly feel they can do so, or they wouldn't do so, and it seems this has come from their own solicitors too. If that fails, then I'm sure they can add the stipulation to Rangers getting the SPL share. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forest_Fifer Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 1918 - the end of the Great War against the ***? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Diamond Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 Ah, so you're afraid the Chelsea fans will be there. I get you now Will that also mean the Hamburg boys will be looking for cheap flights then 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 Gregory Ioannidis @LawTop20 With RFC ending, liabilities and sanctions [Court of Session, dual contracts etc] would also end. This is the main advantage of New Rangers. Gregory Ioannidis @LawTop20 The 'transfer' of the OldCo's liabilities to the NewCo, would mean a serious violation of the separate corporate personality principle. Gregory Ioannidis @LawTop20 @Paulmcc12 @evanjhenderson @mdkster Just to help: SPL may vote to apply sanctions to NewCo but it would be in violation of national law Why is this guy being given so much credence? He was wrong re UEFA rules about going to court, despite being very vociferous on the issue. Why would he be right about this? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 Been out this afternoon... quick summary anyone? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chazza1910 Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 So they have to face: 1) Newco vote 2) SPL sanctions over dual contracts 3) SFA disrepute punishment With all this mud clinging to them, how can they be admitted to the SPL? And they bleat "We've suffered enough." Not likely, much worse is to come. To think I thought losing the BTC was the biggie. Well, it is for D Murray esq, formerly of Monaco. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paco Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 (edited) Let's say then, for arguments sake, the Newco vote is rejected on the 4th of July. Who has the jurisdiction for the punishment over the EBT's? Still the SPL, as the 'crimes' were committed in that league, or the SFA? Or the SFL, if Rangers are allowed into Division 3? We haven't even mentioned the still-to-be-decided punishment for the disrepute angle. This is fucking glorious. Edited June 18, 2012 by Paco 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swello Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 Why is this guy being given so much credence? He was wrong re UEFA rules about going to court, despite being very vociferous on the issue. Why would he be right about this? Exactly - he's like the anti-RTC - he seems to be on the wrong side of the argument on almost everything. Who is the guy and why is he being quoted? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbornbairn Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 Why is this guy being given so much credence? He was wrong re UEFA rules about going to court, despite being very vociferous on the issue. Why would he be right about this? I can see where that Gregory Io thingy is coming from. Oldco did the bad stuff, not Newco therefore wrong to punish newco. BUT Oldco hold the SPL share and SFA membership - both of which could be stripped as punishment leaving Oldco nothing to transfer to Newco. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sting777 Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 With all this mud clinging to them, how can they be admitted to the SPL? Scottish football can turn off the light and throw away the key if this lot are admitted to the SPHell 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamish_ict Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 Can anyone explain why the newco is considered a new entity (and loses their trophy history etc), but can still be punished for the oldco being bad. I'd love to see both happen right enough, but should it not be either / or? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin M Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 B-b-b-b-b-b-b-but....... we are the people? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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