The Famous Aberdeen - Season 2022/23

[Afc69]

13 minutes ago, CoveRangers1922 said:

Interesting, I hope it's not a signed deal yet. I'm still holding hope he stays at Cove. I know, unlikely.

Trying to think who you have at LB/LWB now. Lewis Stevenson, who is getting on a bit, and Harry Clarke who looks very impressive but will go back to Arsenal I presume. 

Think your getting the Considine and Harry Milne stories confused 

[RawB93]

6 hours ago, gannonball said:

‘A generous offer’ would have probably have sufficed, or something to that effect.

“Celtic FC is content that it has made a magnificent offer and it is now up to the agent and player to decide if the player wants to join Celtic. If not, we move on.”

Something like that?

[Alert Mongoose]

Three players handing in a transfer request in the same week is pretty unprecedented. Ferguson probably copied and pasted his from last time. Maybe offered the template to Ramirez and Ramsay?

[DukDukGoose]

10 minutes ago, Alert Mongoose said:

Three players handing in a transfer request in the same week is pretty unprecedented. Ferguson probably copied and pasted his from last time. Maybe offered the template to Ramirez and Ramsay?

[HarleyQuinn]

Goodwin isn't messing about. We've a fair amount of crap on big wages that need moved on and that's exactly what's he's doing. 

JET, Woods, Lewis, Campbell, Ojo, McGeouch, Ramirez, McLennan, Considine, Montgomery, Jenks and Devlin can all leave. Verdict is still out on McKenzie. Getting shot of Gordon Marshall and the boy Spence seems another good move.

Ramirez initially did really well but he's been disappointing for sometime now. Lacks pace, any aerial presence and is bullied by the majority of cb's in the league. We are not getting value for money.

We have a decent foundation of players left. Looking forward to potentially seeing Ross Duncan and Hanratty feature next season.

[highland_mechanic]

4 hours ago, HarleyQuinn said:

Goodwin isn't messing about. We've a fair amount of crap on big wages that need moved on and that's exactly what's he's doing. 

JET, Woods, Lewis, Campbell, Ojo, McGeouch, Ramirez, McLennan, Considine, Montgomery, Jenks and Devlin can all leave. Verdict is still out on McKenzie. Getting shot of Gordon Marshall and the boy Spence seems another good move.

Ramirez initially did really well but he's been disappointing for sometime now. Lacks pace, any aerial presence and is bullied by the majority of cb's in the league. We are not getting value for money.

We have a decent foundation of players left. Looking forward to potentially seeing Ross Duncan and Hanratty feature next season.

Do you mean Ryan Duncan?

[Jacksgranda]

Him an' a'.

[starryfish]

8 hours ago, HarleyQuinn said:

Goodwin isn't messing about. We've a fair amount of crap on big wages that need moved on and that's exactly what's he's doing. 

JET, Woods, Lewis, Campbell, Ojo, McGeouch, Ramirez, McLennan, Considine, Montgomery, Jenks and Devlin can all leave. Verdict is still out on McKenzie. Getting shot of Gordon Marshall and the boy Spence seems another good move.

Ramirez initially did really well but he's been disappointing for sometime now. Lacks pace, any aerial presence and is bullied by the majority of cb's in the league. We are not getting value for money.

We have a decent foundation of players left. Looking forward to potentially seeing Ross Duncan and Hanratty feature next season.

Hanratty struggled for game time when out on loan, especially at Elgin City.

[DrewDon]

10 hours ago, HarleyQuinn said:

Goodwin isn't messing about. We've a fair amount of crap on big wages that need moved on and that's exactly what's he's doing. 

JET, Woods, Lewis, Campbell, Ojo, McGeouch, Ramirez, McLennan, Considine, Montgomery, Jenks and Devlin can all leave. Verdict is still out on McKenzie. Getting shot of Gordon Marshall and the boy Spence seems another good move.

@Vancouver_Don

[DukDukGoose]

If you have any doubt where the original leak came from then you only have to see the spin on things from the Record today. Three articles on how poorly Considine has been treated.

He's a 35 year old who's suffered a major injury and we have a new manager in place. Why should he be offered the same deal? Why should he have been offered two years?

There's not a chance he'd get the money he is looking for elsewhere in the Premier League so why should Aberdeen have to offer that?

[kingjoey]

12 hours ago, Alert Mongoose said:

Three players handing in a transfer request in the same week is pretty unprecedented. Ferguson probably copied and pasted his from last time. Maybe offered the template to Ramirez and Ramsay?

Which three players have handed in transfer requests in the same week?

[Leith Green]

9 minutes ago, Merkland Red said:

If you have any doubt where the original leak came from then you only have to see the spin on things from the Record today. Three articles on how poorly Considine has been treated.

He's a 35 year old who's suffered a major injury and we have a new manager in place. Why should he be offered the same deal? Why should he have been offered two years?

There's not a chance he'd get the money he is looking for elsewhere in the Premier League so why should Aberdeen have to offer that?

Although there is this rumour as well..............

 

 

[DukDukGoose]

2 minutes ago, Leith Green said:

Although there is this rumour as well..............

 

 

I wouldn't believe that. Scott Burns would be making a song and dance about it if true. As would the record.

I wouldn't agree with it if they did either.

[Rodhull]

18 minutes ago, Merkland Red said:

If you have any doubt where the original leak came from then you only have to see the spin on things from the Record today. Three articles on how poorly Considine has been treated.

He's a 35 year old who's suffered a major injury and we have a new manager in place. Why should he be offered the same deal? Why should he have been offered two years?

There's not a chance he'd get the money he is looking for elsewhere in the Premier League so why should Aberdeen have to offer that?

Yeah the "exclusive" they ran yesterday pointing out that Considine was asked to take a pay cut as if this was some amazing revelation that people wouldn't have worked out for themselves was the kind of thing you'd expect from political parties PR not football transfer news.

[Game of throw-ins]

1 hour ago, Rodhull said:

Yeah the "exclusive" they ran yesterday pointing out that Considine was asked to take a pay cut as if this was some amazing revelation that people wouldn't have worked out for themselves was the kind of thing you'd expect from political parties PR not football transfer news.

Exactly.  His "guaranteed" income would have worked out around £2K a week. We would all have assumed that Considine was on quite a bit more than that just now.  But there must be a serious risk that he won't be able to make much of a contribution as a first team player at this stage in his career.  In the circumstances a one year contract on £2K and a chance to move into coaching seems a very good offer.  Lots of players would like to stay in the game after retirement but don't get the chance.  It's not nothing.

[Bogbrush1903]

I'm fine with Considine leaving as he was on the brink of overtaking Bobby Clark and joining Miller & McLeish in the Top 3 appearances.

With the best will in the world, Considine is nothing more than good pro who has eventually managed to attain a level of consistency as the years have passed by.

Although we haven't any proof from this season, we should be able to do better.

Having said all that, I would also have gave him a year's playing contract due to the hopelessness we've witnessed on various occasions from Bates & Gallagher this season.

If he wants to reject that year then fair enough, but it's disappointing in the manner he and his advisors have reacted to the offer. The club doesn't owe Andy Considine anything. He's made a good living from the club and his 'loyalty*' was rewarded with a testimonial. He now needs to move on and stop damaging his legacy amongst the fans. The respect he garnered from the fans was hard-earned but now he seems intent to losing that respect to quibble over a couple of grand.

*Loyalty to an extent although it was probably never tested with a better offer. I do remember there were rumours floating around that Oldco were interested at one point but that's certainly not a better offer crossing over to the dark side.

[RandomGuy.]

A lot of people assume clubs at this level can afford to be sentimental.

Very easy to "care" and end up with too much budget spent on too little. Considine is a 35yo CB who has never been a standout at this level in that position, or a 35yo LB who just lost his legs while never being a standout at this level. Would be foolish to tie yourself to him beyond a year as you're trying to grow and improve.

[lubo_blaha]

A lot of people assume clubs at this level can afford to be sentimental.
Very easy to "care" and end up with too much budget spent on too little. Considine is a 35yo CB who has never been a standout at this level in that position, or a 35yo LB who just lost his legs while never being a standout at this level. Would be foolish to tie yourself to him beyond a year as you're trying to grow and improve.

I agree that we shouldn’t break the bank for Considine but he’s been one of the best centre backs in the league for most of the last decade. He performed consistently well at the top end of the league for several seasons on end. He also won player of the year in probably the best Aberdeen team of the last 25 years whilst playing at left back.

Whilst it’s unclear how much his injury has affected him, it would’ve been valuable to have a model pro with his league, cup, European and international experience in the squad and working with the young players. That said, the club did offer him a pretty good deal.

[HarleyQuinn]

13 hours ago, highland_mechanic said:

Do you mean Ryan Duncan?

That's the one. Supposedly he's another with a bright future ahead of him. 

@starryfish there appeared to be alot of excitement about Hanratty last season. Was the youngster I was most excited to see.

[DukDukGoose]

1 hour ago, lubo_blaha said:

I agree that we shouldn’t break the bank for Considine but he’s been one of the best centre backs in the league for most of the last decade. He performed consistently well at the top end of the league for several seasons on end. He also won player of the year in probably the best Aberdeen team of the last 25 years whilst playing at left back.

Whilst it’s unclear how much his injury has affected him, it would’ve been valuable to have a model pro with his league, cup, European and international experience in the squad and working with the young players. That said, the club did offer him a pretty good deal.

'mon now. He played left back for most of it.