When will indyref2 happen?

[ICTJohnboy]

19 minutes ago, SandyCromarty said:

As I've said already Brown has the face of a Seaside Donkey.

 

That's a bit harsh on seaside donkeys.

[sophia]

54 minutes ago, ICTJohnboy said:

 

That's a bit harsh on seaside donkeys.

That may be true but I put it to you that you know hee haw about seaside donkeys

 

[DeeTillEhDeh]

From what pollsters are saying the shift in independence polling is down to women going from No to Yes.

 

Not surprising - had a lot of anecdotal evidence that this was happening - for example, my wife who voted No in 2016 is now hard Yes - primarily because of Sturgeon but also because of Johnson. I hgave other female family and friends who have shifted for the exact same reason.

 

 

[HTG]

Would be interested to see the shift in the voting intentions of EU residents living and working in Scotland. Were they not something like 80% No last time round. 

[welshbairn]

Just now, HTG said:

Would be interested to see the shift in the voting intentions of EU residents living and working in Scotland. Were they not something like 80% No last time round. 

And the English born residents, I'd imagine quite a few have switched over.

[John Lambies Doos]

You're welcome lads. Me and the dedicated Yes missionaries have been shagging sense into women for the last six years. I'm knackered.

Sorry for the lateness in response; I was pumping loads of women...

[DrewDon]

 

[Inanimate Carbon Rod]

1 minute ago, DrewDon said:

 

Kelvin Mckenzie, the arsehole’s arsehole.

[Antlion]

8 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said:

Kelvin Mckenzie, the arsehole’s arsehole.

Lately seen condemning Yasmin Alibhai Brown’s “brown privilege” when sticking up for his racist pal Fox. Fat c**t will probably be dead soon, though, so there’s that. 

[BFTD]

20 hours ago, sophia said:

"I knock on doors day in day out and the consistent message I hear on the doorsteps is that we don't want another devisive referendum which will tear families and communities apart. The message I'm hearing on the doorsteps is that we want the snp to get on with the day job and improve health and education. Just today we hear that Scotland has slipped down the international league tables in numeracy and literacy"

© every no mark lib dem candidate and some more besides.

"despite it being obviously transparent, "on the doorsteps" is quite clever because the interviewer has nowhere much to go in terms of questioning the veracity of the line.

"The message I'm hearing on the doorsteps" has been the warcry of every imminent loser for longer than I've been alive. Absolute guarantee they've just lost the election/their seat/the referendum.

My favourite was the UKIP fruitcake who claimed what he was hearing on doorsteps (from the voices in his head, presumably) was that he'd won Falkirk, which was widely reported by the press. He lost his deposit with a few hundred votes  

4 hours ago, DeeTillEhDeh said:

Not surprising - had a lot of anecdotal evidence that this was happening - for example, my wife who voted No in 2016 is now hard Yes - primarily because of Sturgeon but also because of Johnson.

Another @Blootoon87 success story.

[welshbairn]

28 minutes ago, DrewDon said:

 

This attitude should be encouraged with all means available. 

[BFTD]

The fact that scumbags like Kelvin McKenzie and Piers Morgan continue to have successful media careers, despite being universally acknowledged as odious, unpleasant individuals, demonstrates the influence still held by members of the tabloid press who know where the bodies are buried and are willing to use blackmail to get what they want.

[SandyCromarty]

4 minutes ago, BigFatTabbyDave said:

The fact that scumbags like Kelvin McKenzie and Piers Morgan continue to have successful media careers, despite being universally acknowledged as odious, unpleasant individuals, demonstrates the influence still held by members of the tabloid press who know where the bodies are buried and are willing to use blackmail to get what they want.

Or tap phones.

[NotThePars]

5 minutes ago, BigFatTabbyDave said:

The fact that scumbags like Kelvin McKenzie and Piers Morgan continue to have successful media careers, despite being universally acknowledged as odious, unpleasant individuals, demonstrates the influence still held by members of the tabloid press who know where the bodies are buried and are willing to use blackmail to get what they want.

There's also the fact that outrage gets clicks and that's all these outlets have left in the tank

[John Lambies Doos]

 

Brilliant. I can sense his seethe. Fabulous

[Granny Danger]

1 hour ago, BigFatTabbyDave said:

The fact that scumbags like Kelvin McKenzie and Piers Morgan continue to have successful media careers, despite being universally acknowledged as odious, unpleasant individuals, demonstrates the influence still held by members of the tabloid press who know where the bodies are buried and are willing to use blackmail to get what they want.

Nah.  It’s that people like a pantomime villain.  

I’d like to say it’s only thick people but there are intelligent posters on here who continually respond to obvious trolls, so...

 

[microdave]

I took part in the poll and I'm loving the seethe, knowing that I directly played a small part of that.

[DAFC.]

Who is going to provide serious analysis and evaluation from the Unionist side about an independent Scotland? The uber Unionists aren’t giving actual evidence to support what they are saying. They are just doing a lot of shouting and flag-waving.

Of course the SNP should be candid on currency as it is a pretty big deal, but this whole “can’t do it because things” attitude from the Unionists isn’t going to wash any more.

The SNP have to jump on that and provide a well thought out strategy instead of “we’ll just use the pound as it’s our pound as well”

I’d still have Yes as underdogs regardless of polling figures. There’s always that shitebag mentality, the constant media scare stories and older people being more likely to vote which will all play in their favour. Technology and sources for info has moved on dramatically since the last IndyRef, so you’d like to think older people will have access to more outlets than just BBC News and the Daily Record. I haven’t actually seen someone possess a physical newspaper in quite some time, unless it’s to use a Metro to cover their hair running for a train in the pissing rain.

[SANTAN]

9 hours ago, DAFC. said:

Who is going to provide serious analysis and evaluation from the Unionist side about an independent Scotland? The uber Unionists aren’t giving actual evidence to support what they are saying. They are just doing a lot of shouting and flag-waving.

Of course the SNP should be candid on currency as it is a pretty big deal, but this whole “can’t do it because things” attitude from the Unionists isn’t going to wash any more.

The SNP have to jump on that and provide a well thought out strategy instead of “we’ll just use the pound as it’s our pound as well”

I’d still have Yes as underdogs regardless of polling figures. There’s always that shitebag mentality, the constant media scare stories and older people being more likely to vote which will all play in their favour. Technology and sources for info has moved on dramatically since the last IndyRef, so you’d like to think older people will have access to more outlets than just BBC News and the Daily Record. I haven’t actually seen someone possess a physical newspaper in quite some time, unless it’s to use a Metro to cover their hair running for a train in the pissing rain.
 

Very sensible post. The onus is certainly on the Leave side to go into detail which I've been stressing but people just wanna talk about polls. 

[jamamafegan]

Very sensible post. The onus is certainly on the Leave side to go into detail which I've been stressing but people just wanna talk about polls. 

Well then, what are your concerns about independence? What kind of details do you want? Tell us.