hearthammer Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 10 minutes ago, WhiteRoseKillie said: Just the two of mine, then. At least my Vitamin E seems to be alright - a great comfort when my mandibular fracture takes twice as long to heal, and my ulcer makes its long-awaited return. On the other hand, I'm fairly sure there's alternatives to dispersible aspirin... Deal me in for 2 as well. Fortunately, the 2 mentioned are not my "major" med and are more for low-level ongoing maintenance. F*ck knows what i'd be able to do if they cant get hold of my heroin methadone coke main med. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgecutter Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 34 minutes ago, Detournement said: 4-3 to the government 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 It will be interesting to see how Royalists react to the Supreme Court saying it's legal for the PM to lie to the Queen in order to get her to close down Parliament. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Tynierose said: Excellent list of meds not being available, should take out a considerable amount of fat gammon faced bigots that want it in the first place. Hoisted by their own petard, blood pressure, infection etc etc. Viagra being on the list is also amusing from that standpoint. Edited September 13, 2019 by LongTimeLurker 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Just now, LongTimeLurker said: Viagra being on the list is also amusing from that standpoint. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said: Viagra being on the list is also amusing from that standpoint. They may take our life saving medicine but they will never take our stiffies! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 36 minutes ago, renton said: Scots law is rooted in a number of different traditions and doctrines from that of English law. Nothing to do with the Claim of Rights or anything else, but it does influence the mindset of the judiciary and how they approach the same case. You might call that activist by the courts but it's also plainly rooted in the obvious reality of the situation: So they effectively are second guessing the government. Ridiculous. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, Detournement said: So they effectively are second guessing the government. Ridiculous. Not in any country with a written constitution where government actions and legislation can be overturned as unconstitutional. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwullie Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Snafu said: Article in the Belfast Telegraph on medicines that will be hard to get if we crash out of Europe https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/brexit/revealed-59-vital-medicines-that-may-be-impossible-to-get-if-the-uk-crashes-out-of-europe-38492903.html Here is the full list of medications which could be affected by a no-deal Brexit, according to E-Surgery: Acamprosate (Campral) treats alcohol dependence Aciclovir (Acyclovir) treats herpes, simplex virus infections, chickenpox, and shingles Allopurinol prevents gout, specific types of kidney stones and side effects that can occur with chemotherapy Amlodipine treats hypertension and coronary artery disease Baclofen treats spasticity Bendroflumethiazide is used in the management of hypertension Brinzolamide Eye Drops treats ocular hypertension and open-angle glaucoma Calcipotriol ointment treats psoriasis Candesartan treats hypertension and congestive heart failure Cetirizine is an antihistamine Citalopram is an antidepressant Co-careldopa manages the symptoms of Parkinson's disease Co-codamol is a pain relief Cyclizine treats and prevents nausea, vomiting and dizziness due to motion sickness or vertigo Desogestrel (Cerelle) is a birth control pills for women and also treats menopausal symptoms in women Dihydrocodeine is a pain relief Dispersible Aspirin tablets treat pain, fever, or inflammation and is used as a blood thinner Dosulepin (Prothiaden) is used in the treatment of depression Doxycycline is an antibiotic used in the treatment of pneumonia, acne, chlamydia infections, early Lyme disease, cholera and syphilis Esomeprazole (Nexium) reduces stomach acid Exemestane (Aromasin) is used to treat breast cancer Finasteride (Proscar/Propecia) treats an enlarged prostate or scalp hair loss in men. It can also be used to treat excessive hair growth in women and as a part of hormone therapy for transgender women Glimepiride (Amaryl) is an anti-diabetic medication Hydrocortisone is a steroid medicine Hydroxychloroquine (Plaquenil) is used for the prevention and treatment of certain types of malaria as well as rheumatoid arthritis, lupus, and porphyria cutanea tarda Irbesartan is used for the treatment of hypertension Lansoprazole controls the stomach's production of gastric acid Liquid Carbamazepine (Tegretol) treats epilepsy, neuropathic pain, and schizophrenia Lisinopril treats hypertension, heart failure, and is used after heart attacks Lofepramine (Gamanil/Lomont/Tymelyt) treats depression Losartan (Cozaar) treas hypertension, diabetic kidney disease, heart failure, and left ventricular enlargement Meloxicam (Mobic) treats pain and inflammation in rheumatic diseases and osteoarthritis Metformin (Glucophage) is an type 2 diabetes medication Metoclopramide is used to treat and prevent nausea and vomiting. It is also used to treat migraine headaches Metronidazole (Flagyl) treat spelvic inflammatory disease, endocarditis, and bacterial vaginosis Naproxen (Aleve/Naprosyn) treats pain, menstrual cramps, inflammatory diseases such as rheumatoid arthritis, and fever Nebivolol treats hypertension Nifedipine (Adalat) is used to manage angina, hypertension, Raynaud's phenomenon, and premature labour Nortriptyline (Allegron/Aventyl/Noritren/Nortrilen/Pamelor) treats clinical depression and childhood bed wetting Olanzapine (Zyprexa) treats schizophrenia and bipolar disorder Olmesartan treats hypertension Omeprazole treats gastroesophageal reflux, peptic ulcer disease, and Zollinger-Ellison syndrome Oxybutynin relieves urinary and bladder difficulties Prednisolone is a steroid medication Pregabalin (Lyrica) treats epilepsy, neuropathic pain, fibromyalgia, restless leg syndrome, and generalized anxiety disorder Quetiapine (Seroquel) treats schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, and major depressive disorder Rasagiline treats symptoms in early Parkinson's disease or as an adjunct therapy in more advanced cases Ramipril is used to treat high blood pressure and congestive heart failure Risperidone (Risperdal) is an antipsychotic used to treat schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, and irritability associated with autism Ropinirole is used in the treatment of Parkinson's disease and restless legs syndrome Sertraline (Zoloft) treats major depressive disorder Sildenafil (Viagra) is used to treat erectile dysfunction and pulmonary arterial hypertension Sodium valproate (or valproate sodium)is used in the treatment of epilepsy, anorexia nervosa, panic attack, anxiety disorder, post traumatic stress disorder, migraine and bipolar disorder Sotalol treats abnormal heart rhythms Tamsulosin (Flomax) helps with the passage of kidney stones Telmisartan is used in the management of hypertension Tibolone is used for menopausal hormone therapy and in the treatment of postmenopausal osteoporosis and endometriosis Valsartan treats high blood pressure, congestive heart failure, and to increase the chances of living longer after a heart attack Venlafaxine (Effexor) is an antidepressant medication Zopiclone treats insomnia Belfast Telegraph I'm only on the 4 of them, one of which I need on a daily basis or I may need blue lighted to the nearest hospital. 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Jacksgranda Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Snafu said: Article in the Belfast Telegraph on medicines that will be hard to get if we crash out of Europe https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/brexit/revealed-59-vital-medicines-that-may-be-impossible-to-get-if-the-uk-crashes-out-of-europe-38492903.html Here is the full list of medications which could be affected by a no-deal Brexit, according to E-Surgery: Acamprosate (Campral) treats alcohol dependence Aciclovir (Acyclovir) treats herpes, simplex virus infections, chickenpox, and shingles Allopurinol prevents gout, specific types of kidney stones and side effects that can occur with chemotherapy Amlodipine treats hypertension and coronary artery disease Baclofen treats spasticity Bendroflumethiazide is used in the management of hypertension Brinzolamide Eye Drops treats ocular hypertension and open-angle glaucoma Calcipotriol ointment treats psoriasis Candesartan treats hypertension and congestive heart failure Cetirizine is an antihistamine Citalopram is an antidepressant Co-careldopa manages the symptoms of Parkinson's disease Co-codamol is a pain relief Cyclizine treats and prevents nausea, vomiting and dizziness due to motion sickness or vertigo Desogestrel (Cerelle) is a birth control pills for women and also treats menopausal symptoms in women Dihydrocodeine is a pain relief Dispersible Aspirin tablets treat pain, fever, or inflammation and is used as a blood thinner Dosulepin (Prothiaden) is used in the treatment of depression Doxycycline is an antibiotic used in the treatment of pneumonia, acne, chlamydia infections, early Lyme disease, cholera and syphilis Esomeprazole (Nexium) reduces stomach acid Exemestane (Aromasin) is used to treat breast cancer Finasteride (Proscar/Propecia) treats an enlarged prostate or scalp hair loss in men. It can also be used to treat excessive hair growth in women and as a part of hormone therapy for transgender women Glimepiride (Amaryl) is an anti-diabetic medication Hydrocortisone is a steroid medicine Hydroxychloroquine (Plaquenil) is used for the prevention and treatment of certain types of malaria as well as rheumatoid arthritis, lupus, and porphyria cutanea tarda Irbesartan is used for the treatment of hypertension Lansoprazole controls the stomach's production of gastric acid Liquid Carbamazepine (Tegretol) treats epilepsy, neuropathic pain, and schizophrenia Lisinopril treats hypertension, heart failure, and is used after heart attacks Lofepramine (Gamanil/Lomont/Tymelyt) treats depression Losartan (Cozaar) treas hypertension, diabetic kidney disease, heart failure, and left ventricular enlargement Meloxicam (Mobic) treats pain and inflammation in rheumatic diseases and osteoarthritis Metformin (Glucophage) is an type 2 diabetes medication Metoclopramide is used to treat and prevent nausea and vomiting. It is also used to treat migraine headaches Metronidazole (Flagyl) treat spelvic inflammatory disease, endocarditis, and bacterial vaginosis Naproxen (Aleve/Naprosyn) treats pain, menstrual cramps, inflammatory diseases such as rheumatoid arthritis, and fever Nebivolol treats hypertension Nifedipine (Adalat) is used to manage angina, hypertension, Raynaud's phenomenon, and premature labour Nortriptyline (Allegron/Aventyl/Noritren/Nortrilen/Pamelor) treats clinical depression and childhood bed wetting Olanzapine (Zyprexa) treats schizophrenia and bipolar disorder Olmesartan treats hypertension Omeprazole treats gastroesophageal reflux, peptic ulcer disease, and Zollinger-Ellison syndrome Oxybutynin relieves urinary and bladder difficulties Prednisolone is a steroid medication Pregabalin (Lyrica) treats epilepsy, neuropathic pain, fibromyalgia, restless leg syndrome, and generalized anxiety disorder Quetiapine (Seroquel) treats schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, and major depressive disorder Rasagiline treats symptoms in early Parkinson's disease or as an adjunct therapy in more advanced cases Ramipril is used to treat high blood pressure and congestive heart failure Risperidone (Risperdal) is an antipsychotic used to treat schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, and irritability associated with autism Ropinirole is used in the treatment of Parkinson's disease and restless legs syndrome Sertraline (Zoloft) treats major depressive disorder Sildenafil (Viagra) is used to treat erectile dysfunction and pulmonary arterial hypertension Sodium valproate (or valproate sodium)is used in the treatment of epilepsy, anorexia nervosa, panic attack, anxiety disorder, post traumatic stress disorder, migraine and bipolar disorder Sotalol treats abnormal heart rhythms Tamsulosin (Flomax) helps with the passage of kidney stones Telmisartan is used in the management of hypertension Tibolone is used for menopausal hormone therapy and in the treatment of postmenopausal osteoporosis and endometriosis Valsartan treats high blood pressure, congestive heart failure, and to increase the chances of living longer after a heart attack Venlafaxine (Effexor) is an antidepressant medication Zopiclone treats insomnia Belfast Telegraph None of those are mine, so just get on with it.* These two will cancel each other out. * One of those is mine, but I'll be finished my course before 31st October, so just get on with it. 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renton Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Detournement said: So they effectively are second guessing the government. Ridiculous. No. They are applying a good standard of critical reasoning to the case in front of them based on the legal precedent of their jurisdiction. Edited September 13, 2019 by renton 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 1 hour ago, beefybake said: And your point is ? I just wondered.... Given that your views as expressed on here are mostly supportive of the power of centralised government, ie power flows downwards. .., Russia etc, I just wondered if that colours your question ? Or is it that a funder of the action before the Scottish judges was a corporate..., Ecotricity, I think ? The point is that he’s an idiotic trolling c**t whose trolling is encouraged on here by people who should know better. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Detournement Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 (edited) 33 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said: Not in any country with a written constitution where government actions and legislation can be overturned as unconstitutional. We've not got a written constitution though. And at least in America there is some democratic oversight of the judiciary unlike here. Edited September 13, 2019 by Detournement 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crùbag Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Janey Godley. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Some optimism emerging for a deal today as Boris and Juncker agree to meet on Monday. Sense over the past 48-72 hours is that number 10 are starting to accept that agreeing a deal is the easiest way to achieve their promise of delivering Brexit on 31st October, rather than trying to pull some stunts to force a no-deal Brexit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, Donathan said: Some optimism emerging for a deal today as Boris and Juncker agree to meet on Monday. Sense over the past 48-72 hours is that number 10 are starting to accept that agreeing a deal is the easiest way to achieve their promise of delivering Brexit on 31st October, rather than trying to pull some stunts to force a no-deal Brexit. I cannot think of any deal that Johnson could agree with the EU that would get the backing of Parliament. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Just now, Granny Danger said: I cannot think of any deal that Johnson could agree with the EU that would get the backing of Parliament. I don't know, I suspect that Johnson's Nixonian Mad Man theory is aimed less at the EU and far more at his own parliament. The release of Yellowhammer into the press is more to do with focusing the minds of MPs than anyone else. Resurrect that Irish Sea backstop in some loose form, change the wording a bit and I bet you'd get enough Labour agreement to obviate the need for the DUP... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pet Jeden Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 I can see that this would be a worry to everyone on regular necessary medication. But I don't understand why there should be medicine shortages. That article says......"the following medications which our suppliers have expressed concern about, either because there are worries around future import rights or because the prices are already rising as a result of stockpiling" 1. Why would a UK government withdraw import rights? 2. Stockpiling should be a short term problem. And surely to god all the thoughtless scaremongering can only make that potential problem worse. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, renton said: I don't know, I suspect that Johnson's Nixonian Mad Man theory is aimed less at the EU and far more at his own parliament. The release of Yellowhammer into the press is more to do with focusing the minds of MPs than anyone else. Resurrect that Irish Sea backstop in some loose form, change the wording a bit and I bet you'd get enough Labour agreement to obviate the need for the DUP... Not sure about the social and economic upside to that, but the political upside could be brilliant. At the forthcoming GE: 1. The Brexit Party would stand against the Tories. 2. Labour could deselect all the arseholes who vote with Johnson. 3. The SNP would have a near clean sweep. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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