Alert Mongoose Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Are you saying you shouldn't have sacked McNamara? That he would've kept you up? To be fair I read it as that they'd kept McNamara too long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedLoon63 Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 No. I guarantee he'll keep you up... Aright Darren Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadasdillinger Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 No, keep him. Jolly, all-round (literally) great guy and tactical genius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted October 26, 2016 Author Share Posted October 26, 2016 1 minute ago, RandomGuy. said: Is that now just seven league wins in 28 games this calendar year? I've been pretty critical of him for some time now - the narrow formation, the persistence with out-of-form players, second (or even fourth-rate) signings - I could go on. I think he got lucky with Stewart and Hemmings and even then under-performed. Other teams with similar budgets (or lower budgets) are doing far better - yet we are scrabbling around at the end of October not having a steady formaton, a steady line-up and lacking options and creativity. The Board have a lot to answer for too - they must have had a good idea that both Hemmings and Stewart were going to go - yet little or nothing has been done. Why not a little more to to try and tempt Mallan? Why not try to hijack the Tony Andreu deal even? Nope - we don't sign anyone of real note and hope to pick up the players no-one else sign as if there is a gem waiting to be found. The pre-contract players have added nothing to the sqaud - yet Hartley perseveres with them - it his stubbornness to adapt and change that is the real issue for me. He also looks like he has lost the players as well - and if you do that then you are screwed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 2 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: Are you saying you shouldn't have sacked McNamara? That he would've kept you up? No I am not saying that. There's things that are obvious and others that are not. McNamara should have been sacked at the end of the 2014/15 season - not knowing that was a mistake on the part of the United board. No one would have been able to predict that Mixu would have done such a bad job replacing him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wasps1 Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 4 minutes ago, Louis Litt said: Have you heard any positive rumours about who may end up replacing him? I could do with a pick me up, Wasps1 I don't think it would be right to sack him fella . But am not 100% sure if he has the bottle to turn it around I think John Hughes would get it if he does go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Plenty of 'highly rated' managers available to take over from the greasy, obese tramp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnydun Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Like I said on the Dee thread, the Yanks wont sack him. We will have to wait for him to walk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted October 26, 2016 Author Share Posted October 26, 2016 4 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said: To be fair I read it as that they'd kept McNamara too long I think Random was alluding more to who they replaced him with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paranoid android Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 2 minutes ago, SpiderDee said: He has to go. Awful signings and tactically inept I have some sympathy for him given that he had to sell Hemmings and Stewart - they were always going to be a huge loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinkle Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 To be fair I read it as that they'd kept McNamara too long To be honest, they are both right. Jackie shouldve been sacked in the summer and we also appointed the wrong man as his replacement.Can Dundee afford to sack Hartley? If so, who do they replace him with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 1 minute ago, Granny Danger said: No one would have been able to predict that Mixu would have done such a bad job replacing him. Everyone on here, outwith some Killie fans, did predict it, tbf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 This is just like us following up one our greatest ever achievements in 94 with relegation in 95. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 If he's punted the bookies shortlist for his replacement is going to be utterly hilarious and terrifying in equal measure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daydream Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paranoid android Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 If Hartley does go, John Hughes is your boy - say what you like about him, he's a decent coach for this level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Master Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 I've tried to stay positive, but I'm afraid that 6 defeats on the bounce should be the death knell for any manager. It's become a mentality which will be very hard to break without some fresh air. McPake and O'Dea to take charge at the weekend, then a phone call to (I hate myself for this) John Hughes. He should be capable of steadying the ship, making us difficult to beat until he can try and bring in someone creative in January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JockysJetpack Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Too late, we are down. Dundee fans still behind Hartley do not have a clue, loyalty for absolutely no reason. I just dont understand it, look at the facts and figures, this year has been pathetic, he has to go. We are down? 11 games in? What a ridiculous statement.We are in trouble. I'm not saying we should keep Hartley but you need to take a step back here pal. 27 games to go, with or without Hartley we shouldn't be consigning ourselves to relegation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted October 26, 2016 Author Share Posted October 26, 2016 2 minutes ago, The Master said: I've tried to stay positive, but I'm afraid that 6 defeats on the bounce should be the death knell for any manager. It's become a mentality which will be very hard to break without some fresh air. McPake and O'Dea to take charge at the weekend, then a phone call to (I hate myself for this) John Hughes. He should be capable of steadying the ship, making us difficult to beat until he can try and bring in someone creative in January. His teams could be brutal but sometimes that is what is needed - our players are powder puff in the extreme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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