Old Firm Colts in L2

[BFTD]

12 minutes ago, Brazilianlex said:

why is there no mention of the colts only being allowed to field Scottish players ? Isn't that meant to be the purpose to develop future scotland players or is that just an excuse for the bigot brothers to get their teams in.

No, you're being far too cynical here.

It's also not a front for them to keep their over-age reserve players sharp, once the "colt" teams are established. That's never going to happen.

[Bazil85]

I think this highlights an even bigger problem with football in this country (and others)

Why on earth are the people in charge of the SFA and SPFL not democratically elected? They've had f*ck up after f*ck up for years now but yet still in a job! It's beyond a joke. Look at some of their great ideas.

10,000 seat stadiums with undersoil heating to get into the top flight
The 12-12-18 nonsense
The premier league relegation play-off spot being completely weighted to the premier league side
Probably the worst of all, their absolute farce in dealing with Rangers liquidation, trying to get the new club voted into the Championship instead of the bottom of the pyramid.

They should be voted on by clubs every 3-4 years with the fans of each club allowed to determine how they vote. Doncaster Regan and co would be long gone by now.

The fans of 40 clubs do not want colts in the league, this is clear. What's also clear is it's 100% pandering to the Old Firm. Drop the idea now and let's fight to take our sport back by demanding these fools that run our game are held accountable for their blatant incompetence.

[peternapper]

Have always felt no team should be allowed more than one team in the actual league system there would have to be the possibility of a conflict of interest at some point with them affecting existing league teams. If they want games for their young players tinker with the development/reserve league. If they think individual players would benefit from league football then loan them to existing league teams to get experience  through the loan system.

[ftk]

If colt teams are allowed in why not have them play all their fixtures away from home. That would save them the expense of paying for a home venue. Give the other teams more home matches and more home gate money.

Win win!

[1320Lichtie]

If colt teams are allowed in why not have them play all their fixtures away from home. That would save them the expense of paying for a home venue. Give the other teams more home matches and more home gate money.

Win win!

Yes. Can't wait to get all psyched up for our home game against Rangers 18 year olds, who's sole purpose in playing the game isn't to win but to gain some young lads experience of playing against lower league jobbers that'll set them up to take international football by storm.... or be released and end up in the juniors 6 months later after Rangers make their 7684737th signing from Portugal.

[haufdaft]

If colt teams are allowed in why not have them play all their fixtures away from home. That would save them the expense of paying for a home venue. Give the other teams more home matches and more home gate money.

Win win!

You mean put all the match day expenses onto the home team with very little hope of recovering them due to a minimal attendance

Lose lose!

[Booker-T]

4 hours ago, Brazilianlex said:

why is there no mention of the colts only being allowed to field Scottish players ? Isn't that meant to be the purpose to develop future scotland players or is that just an excuse for the bigot brothers to get their teams in.

something to do with racism

[Cowden Cowboy]

This change if it went to a vote would need 32 SPFL clubs to vote in favour to pass (as well as 11 top flight clubs and 17 teams in top 2 leagues)

[JakeSAFC]

Nothing excites me more than playing Rangers or Celtic colts on a cold Saturday in December.

[foreverarover]

Rangers Under 20s v Annan at Forthbank Celtic Under 20s v Montrose at Cappielow. sure fire sellout crowds and HUGE tv ratings.
In the Sunday Mail today they were not only expecting the colt teams stuff to be approved, they were expecting it within 2 years IIRC!
Crowds were horrendous in the Challenge Cup last year, despite the clear novelty of it and rock bottom admission prices. The supposed cream in Celtic were embarrassed by Livingston and the rest were sent packing early doors. 
Is it really all about Premier Sports paying 5 grand a match to show Rangers U20s v Celtic Under 20s at Broadwood?

Remember last season some diddy sports channel showed the old firm U20 cup ties live.

[foreverarover]

 
What happens if a team is relegated from the premiership?
 
Is their colt team withdrawn?
 

Why not ? Put it in the contracts if the top team loses find another club. It would encourage them to try to succeed to get to the full squad or is this just the Scottish mentality of what if. Not good enough just get a normal job IMO seemples.

[Bazil85]

This change if it went to a vote would need 32 SPFL clubs to vote in favour to pass (as well as 11 top flight clubs and 17 teams in top 2 leagues)

My fear is they'll try and do this underhanded. That's why they've said they'll start at the bottom of the pyramid. I don't think the voting is as stringent for clubs coming in there. Then they'll just end up working their way up to league 1 or 2.

[BB_Bino]

19 hours ago, GordonD said:

Time to resurrect the maximum-of-three-foreigners rule which would force teams to develop youngsters rather than importing players from Europe or further afield.

Once we are outside of the EU, there is no reason why this rule couldn't be re-introduced. I'm not sure I would want to see it as low as 3 again, however I do think we need a cap. Something like a maximum of 6 foreign players in the match day 18 would be fair enough.

[Muzza81]

Why stop there? We should limit the number of foreign employees working at a club as well.

"75% of the pie staff should be born within 10 miles of the ground"

"1 in 3 club shop workers must hold a British Passport".

[Clyde01]

How are the next generation of internationalists going to be developed by playing against utter pish in League 2 or lower. Get them sent out on loan to the championship or lower end premiership. Does anyone seriously think callum McGregor would be a full international player if only he had played against Clyde and Annan for a season or two. Utter shite, get this idea to f**k and Doncaster with it.

[ftk]

There was a rumour last season there was going to be a draft system where premiership clubs would loan a certain amount of youth players to championship clubs. As usual couldn't be agreed Hearts moaning about them only going to clubs they wanted them to go etc. Would be surprised if the Colts are agreed on nothing ever gets voted through on Scottish Football.

[Bazil85]

There was a rumour last season there was going to be a draft system where premiership clubs would loan a certain amount of youth players to championship clubs. As usual couldn't be agreed Hearts moaning about them only going to clubs they wanted them to go etc. Would be surprised if the Colts are agreed on nothing ever gets voted through on Scottish Football.

Well that sounds like a terrible idea so pretty glad it didn't get agreed. Hopefully the colts will be exact same

[GordonD]

4 hours ago, Muzza81 said:

"1 in 3 club shop workers must hold a British Passport".

Well, that would exclude me.

[Sergeant Wilson]

3 hours ago, ftk said:

There was a rumour last season there was going to be a draft system where premiership clubs would loan a certain amount of youth players to championship clubs. As usual couldn't be agreed Hearts moaning about them only going to clubs they wanted them to go etc. Would be surprised if the Colts are agreed on nothing ever gets voted through on Scottish Football.

Rangers seem to have got back in somehow.

[A Believer]

It's just a shame that no one wants to watch these games.

Not listening to the paying customer is a sure fire route to success for Scottish football.

Just using this as an example of the trend of views here. It seems a wee bit like:-
"Let's go out for a curry"

"No thanks, I don't want a curry"

"Have you ever tried one?"

"No, I just know I wouldn't like it"

It's still football; different recipe, but the ingredients for a competitive football match with commensurate skill levels to what we see now. And will develop young players; liking the earlier post re reasonable constraints

Of course the other trend is that this all about a Rangers and Celtic conspiracy curry. Fitba's not all about them; and the likelihood of any other 'elite' league accepting them is nil. Just not a factor in this debate.